If Brees was traded

voodooido · 11-11-2013, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd be OK with trading Brees, if I can get Andrew Luck in return.

Luck and 2 rds 1's in return!

arsaint · 11-11-2013, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by exile

I think we would be 2-6 now without Brees. Enough said.

That's generous - who would be the two?

The Bucs were not the Sucs when we played them - they still had some fight. Same goes for the Clowns.

No, without Brees and with anyone else we currently have as QB we are in the Bucs/Jags situation - probably 1-8 with a squeaker over the Bills - MAYBE

exile · 11-11-2013, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

That's generous - who would be the two?

The Bucs were not the Sucs when we played them - they still had some fight. Same goes for the Clowns.

No, without Brees and with anyone else we currently have as QB we are in the Bucs/Jags situation - probably 1-8 with a squeaker over the Bills - MAYBE

Dolphins and Bills. I making the assumption that McCown could keep us in the cellar but not with a top draft pick.

TheOak · 11-11-2013, 12:53 PM

I dont buy into the whole "under the wing" cr4p science.

Starting QBs are game planning, no time for a lot of tutelage. Watching an elite QB play gives nothing to a rookie. How many non NFL QBs have watched hours and hours of Brees, Manning, Brady play and stink it up every Sunday?

Saint_LB · 11-11-2013, 12:55 PM

Trade Drew Brees? Yikes!

As far as Payton leaving someday...it is ironic that the Saints just put a big ol' nail in Garrett's coffin.

It is my opinion that we all better hope that the Boys do a lot better from here on out.

Off track, but I gotta know. Danno...you still think Morstead wasn't worth that or those picks we gave up. Just curious.

pumpkindriver · 11-11-2013, 12:58 PM

Elite QB's are rare and difficult to find. Too many teams have struggled for years b/c they don't have a very good QB much less an Elite one. We have an Elite QB and he is one of the hardest working players in the NFL, spending countless hours with receivers after practice to work on routes and timing etc. Its not Drew's fault that Nick Toon can't catch a cold.

Danno · 11-11-2013, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Trade Drew Brees? Yikes!

As far as Payton leaving someday...it is ironic that the Saints just put a big ol' nail in Garrett's coffin.

It is my opinion that we all better hope that the Boys do a lot better from here on out.

Off track, but I gotta know. Danno...you still think Morstead wasn't worth that or those picks we gave up. Just curious.

I've said it a million times. NO PUNTER is worth two draft picks in a 4-pick draft with needs all throughout the team on both sides of the ball, especially with the success we've had with late round picks.

whybag · 11-11-2013, 02:28 PM

Don't we already have a QB we're sitting to mentor under Brees, that was acquired this very year? We even cut a player to prevent him from getting poached, why would we now go for a first round player?

Originally Posted by TheOak

I dont buy into the whole "under the wing" cr4p science.

Starting QBs are game planning, no time for a lot of tutelage. Watching an elite QB play gives nothing to a rookie. How many non NFL QBs have watched hours and hours of Brees, Manning, Brady play and stink it up every Sunday?

Watching from the sidelines during a game isn't "under the wing". The benefit is having the QB with you on the training field talking to you about the game. These non NFL QBs aren't talking to Brees, Manning, or Brady every day.

TheOak · 11-11-2013, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by whybag

Don't we already have a QB we're sitting to mentor under Brees, that was acquired this very year? We even cut a player to prevent him from getting poached, why would we now go for a first round player?

Watching from the sidelines during a game isn't "under the wing". The benefit is having the QB with you on the training field talking to you about the game. These non NFL QBs aren't talking to Brees, Manning, or Brady every day.

You have a BU QB so you have a back up if Drew is hurt, you have more than one so that you have depth.

This year is way too early to say we have Drew's replacement. IF he is worth his salt he will be gone before Drew retires due to his contract length.

Back Up QBs are not training with Drew, Brady or Payton... They are running opposing offenses against our defense so that our Defense has something to practice against weekly. They are on the side lines throwing to non-starting receivers while Drew works with the starters...

If your theory is correct then you need to state examples. Rodgers looks nothing like Favre, Brady does not resemble Drew Bledsoe.

Who is Jim Sorgi? Yep.. You don't know either. He was BU QB behind Payton Manning for 4-5 years, and in 2010 he was only good enough to make the Giants practice squad. Where is Curtis Painter after sitting under Payton Manning? How many good NFL QBs can you list that have sat under Tom Brady?

Sorry brother, it sounds good in theory but it just doesn't work out that way. Your great QBs come into the league ready to play, they usually beat out the starter to take the job or jump right into the fire.

The Dude · 11-11-2013, 03:15 PM

I do think we go after a legit starting QB in this years draft. I dont know if Tulane boy is really the answer. He may be a good backup, but thats about it. One thing is for sure, whoever we get will have some mighty big shoes to fill. We wont be over losing Brees for years.

11-11-2013, 12:07 PM	#21
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Re: If Brees was traded Originally Posted by Danno I'd be OK with trading Brees, if I can get Andrew Luck in return. Luck and 2 rds 1's in return!
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arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,715	Re: If Brees was traded Originally Posted by exile I think we would be 2-6 now without Brees. Enough said. That's generous - who would be the two? The Bucs were not the Sucs when we played them - they still had some fight. Same goes for the Clowns. No, without Brees and with anyone else we currently have as QB we are in the Bucs/Jags situation - probably 1-8 with a squeaker over the Bills - MAYBE

11-11-2013, 12:20 PM	#23
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: If Brees was traded Originally Posted by arsaint That's generous - who would be the two? The Bucs were not the Sucs when we played them - they still had some fight. Same goes for the Clowns. No, without Brees and with anyone else we currently have as QB we are in the Bucs/Jags situation - probably 1-8 with a squeaker over the Bills - MAYBE Dolphins and Bills. I making the assumption that McCown could keep us in the cellar but not with a top draft pick.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: If Brees was traded I dont buy into the whole "under the wing" cr4p science. Starting QBs are game planning, no time for a lot of tutelage. Watching an elite QB play gives nothing to a rookie. How many non NFL QBs have watched hours and hours of Brees, Manning, Brady play and stink it up every Sunday? ScottF likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: If Brees was traded Originally Posted by Saint_LB Trade Drew Brees? Yikes! As far as Payton leaving someday...it is ironic that the Saints just put a big ol' nail in Garrett's coffin. It is my opinion that we all better hope that the Boys do a lot better from here on out. Off track, but I gotta know. Danno...you still think Morstead wasn't worth that or those picks we gave up. Just curious. I've said it a million times. NO PUNTER is worth two draft picks in a 4-pick draft with needs all throughout the team on both sides of the ball, especially with the success we've had with late round picks.

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11-11-2013, 03:00 PM	#29
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: If Brees was traded Originally Posted by whybag Don't we already have a QB we're sitting to mentor under Brees, that was acquired this very year? We even cut a player to prevent him from getting poached, why would we now go for a first round player? Watching from the sidelines during a game isn't "under the wing". The benefit is having the QB with you on the training field talking to you about the game. These non NFL QBs aren't talking to Brees, Manning, or Brady every day. You have a BU QB so you have a back up if Drew is hurt, you have more than one so that you have depth. This year is way too early to say we have Drew's replacement. IF he is worth his salt he will be gone before Drew retires due to his contract length. Back Up QBs are not training with Drew, Brady or Payton... They are running opposing offenses against our defense so that our Defense has something to practice against weekly. They are on the side lines throwing to non-starting receivers while Drew works with the starters... If your theory is correct then you need to state examples. Rodgers looks nothing like Favre, Brady does not resemble Drew Bledsoe. Who is Jim Sorgi? Yep.. You don't know either. He was BU QB behind Payton Manning for 4-5 years, and in 2010 he was only good enough to make the Giants practice squad. Where is Curtis Painter after sitting under Payton Manning? How many good NFL QBs can you list that have sat under Tom Brady? Sorry brother, it sounds good in theory but it just doesn't work out that way. Your great QBs come into the league ready to play, they usually beat out the starter to take the job or jump right into the fire.
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