How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights

xan · 11-07-2013, 12:59 PM

I'm not surprised that the Dolphins suck. Even expected the Bucs to be terrible. This bully scandal has lifted the lid on the internal dynamics of an NFL team's culture. It seems that there is a high correlation between how bad a team is and the amount of needless systemic conforming the players are forced to endure.

I wonder what it is like in the Saints' locker room and if things may change?

hagan714 · 11-07-2013, 05:59 PM

right now it is time for a gut check and to step up their game. if a player does not see that by now i would be looking to replace him next year that's if i could not find a player on the team to do it now

dueceloose · 11-07-2013, 06:04 PM

Is it me or does ESPN always have something depressing to talk about.

Bounty gate
Hernandez Saga
Bullying down south

that's how you get the views I guess.

SmashMouth · 11-08-2013, 08:38 AM

I will always remember when the late Jim Finks said that the Saints needed to get smarter as a football team. That means getting higher IQ players, of course. I think the Saints are smarter now, generally speaking.

SaintsBro · 11-08-2013, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I will always remember when the late Jim Finks said that the Saints needed to get smarter as a football team. That means getting higher IQ players, of course. I think the Saints are smarter now, generally speaking.

Absolutely true. I don't know about this year's scores in particular, but in past years, the Saints have been THE smartest team in the NFL, both in terms of the Wunderlic test that is given to college football draft prospects, and I also heard a stat that was based on the average GPA of the players from college, when you added them all up, team by team, the Saints were at the top or near the top of the league.

saintfan · 11-08-2013, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Is it me or does ESPN always have something depressing to talk about.

Bounty gate
Hernandez Saga
Bullying down south

that's how you get the views I guess.

ESPN stopped being a "sports" network long long ago. Now, they're just like any other "News" network. The money is in the controversy.

iceshack149 · 11-08-2013, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

ESPN stopped being a "sports" network long long ago. Now, they're just like any other "News" network. The money is in the controversy.

I've attempted to contact hosts for the ESPN radio shows to ask them to report more on actual sports than spend SO much time on social issues. There's so much sports to talk about and we're forced to listen to the garbage in Miami all week long. I heard about it. I get it. I listen to sports talk radio for one reason: sports.

In Fairbanks, we have only one sports radio station and it's ESPN. I listen to it all the time and both SVP and Cowherd have said that they are at the mercy of their director when it comes to sports topics for their respective show. Cowherd swears that the ratings are higher when they focus on these social issues because it intrigues women. That's selling out but it makes them money.

LeBatard is AWFUL.

Danno · 11-08-2013, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I've attempted to contact hosts for the ESPN radio shows to ask them to report more on actual sports than spend SO much time on social issues. There's so much sports to talk about and we're forced to listen to the garbage in Miami all week long. I heard about it. I get it. I listen to sports talk radio for one reason: sports.

In Fairbanks, we have only one sports radio station and it's ESPN. I listen to it all the time and both SVP and Cowherd have said that they are at the mercy of their director when it comes to sports topics for their respective show. Cowherd swears that the ratings are higher when they focus on these social issues because it intrigues women. That's selling out but it makes them money.

LeBatard is AWFUL.

Probably the worst "big name" talking head in the business. Well, right behind Steven A Smith and Skip Bayless.

iceshack149 · 11-08-2013, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Probably the worst "big name" talking head in the business. Well, right behind Steven A Smith and Skip Bayless.

I agree but he's trying hard to catch up.

WHODATINCA · 11-08-2013, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I agree but he's trying hard to catch up.

There is no one worse than Skip Bayless. Word.

11-07-2013, 12:59 PM	#1
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights I'm not surprised that the Dolphins suck. Even expected the Bucs to be terrible. This bully scandal has lifted the lid on the internal dynamics of an NFL team's culture. It seems that there is a high correlation between how bad a team is and the amount of needless systemic conforming the players are forced to endure. I wonder what it is like in the Saints' locker room and if things may change?

11-07-2013, 05:59 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights right now it is time for a gut check and to step up their game. if a player does not see that by now i would be looking to replace him next year that's if i could not find a player on the team to do it now

11-07-2013, 06:04 PM	#3
dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights Is it me or does ESPN always have something depressing to talk about. Bounty gate Hernandez Saga Bullying down south that's how you get the views I guess.
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11-08-2013, 08:38 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,978 Blog Entries: 29	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights I will always remember when the late Jim Finks said that the Saints needed to get smarter as a football team. That means getting higher IQ players, of course. I think the Saints are smarter now, generally speaking. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-08-2013, 08:53 AM	#5
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights Originally Posted by SmashMouth I will always remember when the late Jim Finks said that the Saints needed to get smarter as a football team. That means getting higher IQ players, of course. I think the Saints are smarter now, generally speaking. Absolutely true. I don't know about this year's scores in particular, but in past years, the Saints have been THE smartest team in the NFL, both in terms of the Wunderlic test that is given to college football draft prospects, and I also heard a stat that was based on the average GPA of the players from college, when you added them all up, team by team, the Saints were at the top or near the top of the league. Shoe. likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights Originally Posted by dueceloose Is it me or does ESPN always have something depressing to talk about. Bounty gate Hernandez Saga Bullying down south that's how you get the views I guess. ESPN stopped being a "sports" network long long ago. Now, they're just like any other "News" network. The money is in the controversy. pumpkindriver likes this.

11-08-2013, 01:15 PM	#7
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,435 Blog Entries: 1	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights Originally Posted by saintfan ESPN stopped being a "sports" network long long ago. Now, they're just like any other "News" network. The money is in the controversy. I've attempted to contact hosts for the ESPN radio shows to ask them to report more on actual sports than spend SO much time on social issues. There's so much sports to talk about and we're forced to listen to the garbage in Miami all week long. I heard about it. I get it. I listen to sports talk radio for one reason: sports. In Fairbanks, we have only one sports radio station and it's ESPN. I listen to it all the time and both SVP and Cowherd have said that they are at the mercy of their director when it comes to sports topics for their respective show. Cowherd swears that the ratings are higher when they focus on these social issues because it intrigues women. That's selling out but it makes them money. LeBatard is AWFUL.
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11-08-2013, 01:27 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights Originally Posted by iceshack149 I've attempted to contact hosts for the ESPN radio shows to ask them to report more on actual sports than spend SO much time on social issues. There's so much sports to talk about and we're forced to listen to the garbage in Miami all week long. I heard about it. I get it. I listen to sports talk radio for one reason: sports. In Fairbanks, we have only one sports radio station and it's ESPN. I listen to it all the time and both SVP and Cowherd have said that they are at the mercy of their director when it comes to sports topics for their respective show. Cowherd swears that the ratings are higher when they focus on these social issues because it intrigues women. That's selling out but it makes them money. LeBatard is AWFUL. Probably the worst "big name" talking head in the business. Well, right behind Steven A Smith and Skip Bayless.

11-08-2013, 02:50 PM	#9
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,435 Blog Entries: 1	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights Originally Posted by Danno Probably the worst "big name" talking head in the business. Well, right behind Steven A Smith and Skip Bayless. I agree but he's trying hard to catch up.

11-08-2013, 04:08 PM	#10
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: How to avoid sucking as a team and other insights Originally Posted by iceshack149 I agree but he's trying hard to catch up. There is no one worse than Skip Bayless. Word. saintsfan403 likes this.

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