NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

44Champs · 11-11-2013, 08:32 AM

Great job - Let's do it again mext week.

dueceloose · 11-11-2013, 08:34 AM

I wonder if Sean looked at the forum and decided to shut us up.. bravo Sean. I think if we have this good of a performance again the media and us as fans might go ballistic.

iceshack149 · 11-11-2013, 08:56 AM

I loved his performance. I hated that some people in the crowd booed him at the beginning. Like Hagan's signature says, "True fans don't boo."

If this is a sample of what's to come, the Saints are going to be extremely tough to beat.

Barry from MS · 11-11-2013, 09:00 AM

Where are the MI haters now? Right here. He had a great game last night, and good on him and he doesn't even need to blow up for 145 every week for me to give him props. He needs to 1) get the critical short yardage plays for first downs & TDs consistently 2) hold on to the freakin ball consistently 3) catch the ball out of the backfield consistently 4) block in pass protection consistently 5) leans forward through his runs consistently

See what I did there? Consistently is your key word. O-line can use a dose of it too. We put up 120 yards or more rushing (and I could care less who gets them) in each game versus SF, CAR X 2, and SEA, I will be one happy dude.

QBREES9 · 11-11-2013, 09:05 AM

I just watched the game. Man he looked great. Now do it again.

pumpkindriver · 11-11-2013, 09:20 AM

I've been critical of Ingram so its nice to give the guy some props for a change. He did a great job last night. The O-line played well for a change which helped. But it was against the cowgirls who are both suffering thru lots of injuries and are a demoralized bunch. I hope this is the beginning of a trend and he continues to perform at a high level.

TheOak · 11-11-2013, 09:32 AM

Yes, but some people go off a game by game basis. For me its body of work, and last night was the only stand out game for me for the last 3 years.. Much like Hartley, my issue isn't just last nights miss, its compounded over the last 3 years.

I am over simplifying things but they are both in the same boat as far as I am concerned. Neither have managed to put a foot on the "reliability" train.

I am not going to let cutting someone be much of a thought on one bad game, but i am also not going to think we should throw a 7 year contract off of one good game either.

The honest truth for me is that Ingram is not playing to his pay rate, with an AVE'Sal of $1.8M he ranks 32nd in the league in terms of pay.. He has 9 more games this season to prove he is worth that money.

Danno · 11-11-2013, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Yes, but some people go off a game by game basis. For me its body of work, and last night was the only stand out game for me for the last 3 years.. Much like Hartley, my issue isn't just last nights miss, its compounded over the last 3 years.

I am over simplifying things but they are both in the same boat as far as I am concerned. Neither have managed to put a foot on the "reliability" train.

I am not going to let cutting someone be much of a thought on one bad game, but i am also not going to think we should throw a 7 year contract off of one good game either.

The honest truth for me is that Ingram is not playing to his pay rate, with an AVE'Sal of $1.8M he ranks 32nd in the league in terms of pay.. He has 9 more games this season to prove he is worth that money.

If Spotrac's numbers are right...

He's the 470th highest paid player in the NFL
He's the 246th highest paid player in the NFC
He's the 27th highest paid RB in the NFL
He's the 22nd highest paid Saint

His pay rate is pretty irrelevant in the big picture. Its the 2 draft picks that has everyone's panties wadded up.

TheOak · 11-11-2013, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

If Spotrac's numbers are right...

He's the 470th highest paid player in the NFL
He's the 246th highest paid player in the NFC
He's the 27th highest paid RB in the NFL
He's the 22nd highest paid Saint

His pay rate is pretty irrelevant in the big picture. Its the 2 draft picks that has everyone's panties wadded up.

Spotrac is correct. At this point I don't really put too much into draft picks from 3 years ago. The reason I highlighted his pay vs performance is that when one is cash strapped (against the cap) value is huge, and it is not going to get any better in 2014 with the lengthy FA list. Most of them can go but a few are keepers.
New Orleans Saints Free Agents - 2014

I am a paid Spotrac-er and I didnt want weighted years so I went by ave salary.

canucksaint · 11-11-2013, 10:45 AM

Good on MI for having a great game last night.

There was 1 thing that I noticed, that I "think" was different.

Most of Ingram's good/big runs came when he was running behind Collins. I don't recall a lot of Ingram's previous runs being with a FB in front.

Now granted, due to my location I don't really get to watch a lot of Saints games, so I may be completely off base.

11-11-2013, 08:32 AM	#1
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11-11-2013, 08:34 AM	#2
dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) I wonder if Sean looked at the forum and decided to shut us up.. bravo Sean. I think if we have this good of a performance again the media and us as fans might go ballistic.
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11-11-2013, 08:56 AM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,406 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) I loved his performance. I hated that some people in the crowd booed him at the beginning. Like Hagan's signature says, "True fans don't boo." If this is a sample of what's to come, the Saints are going to be extremely tough to beat. Halo, pherein and SloMotion like this.

11-11-2013, 09:00 AM	#4
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) Where are the MI haters now? Right here. He had a great game last night, and good on him and he doesn't even need to blow up for 145 every week for me to give him props. He needs to 1) get the critical short yardage plays for first downs & TDs consistently 2) hold on to the freakin ball consistently 3) catch the ball out of the backfield consistently 4) block in pass protection consistently 5) leans forward through his runs consistently See what I did there? Consistently is your key word. O-line can use a dose of it too. We put up 120 yards or more rushing (and I could care less who gets them) in each game versus SF, CAR X 2, and SEA, I will be one happy dude. leilung and pherein like this.
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11-11-2013, 09:05 AM	#5
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) I just watched the game. Man he looked great. Now do it again.

11-11-2013, 09:20 AM	#6
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) I've been critical of Ingram so its nice to give the guy some props for a change. He did a great job last night. The O-line played well for a change which helped. But it was against the cowgirls who are both suffering thru lots of injuries and are a demoralized bunch. I hope this is the beginning of a trend and he continues to perform at a high level.

11-11-2013, 09:32 AM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) Yes, but some people go off a game by game basis. For me its body of work, and last night was the only stand out game for me for the last 3 years.. Much like Hartley, my issue isn't just last nights miss, its compounded over the last 3 years. I am over simplifying things but they are both in the same boat as far as I am concerned. Neither have managed to put a foot on the "reliability" train. I am not going to let cutting someone be much of a thought on one bad game, but i am also not going to think we should throw a 7 year contract off of one good game either. The honest truth for me is that Ingram is not playing to his pay rate, with an AVE'Sal of $1.8M he ranks 32nd in the league in terms of pay.. He has 9 more games this season to prove he is worth that money. Barry from MS, pherein and blackangold like this.
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11-11-2013, 10:17 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) Originally Posted by TheOak Yes, but some people go off a game by game basis. For me its body of work, and last night was the only stand out game for me for the last 3 years.. Much like Hartley, my issue isn't just last nights miss, its compounded over the last 3 years. I am over simplifying things but they are both in the same boat as far as I am concerned. Neither have managed to put a foot on the "reliability" train. I am not going to let cutting someone be much of a thought on one bad game, but i am also not going to think we should throw a 7 year contract off of one good game either. The honest truth for me is that Ingram is not playing to his pay rate, with an AVE'Sal of $1.8M he ranks 32nd in the league in terms of pay.. He has 9 more games this season to prove he is worth that money. If Spotrac's numbers are right... He's the 470th highest paid player in the NFL He's the 246th highest paid player in the NFC He's the 27th highest paid RB in the NFL He's the 22nd highest paid Saint His pay rate is pretty irrelevant in the big picture. Its the 2 draft picks that has everyone's panties wadded up.

11-11-2013, 10:25 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) Originally Posted by Danno If Spotrac's numbers are right... He's the 470th highest paid player in the NFL He's the 246th highest paid player in the NFC He's the 27th highest paid RB in the NFL He's the 22nd highest paid Saint His pay rate is pretty irrelevant in the big picture. Its the 2 draft picks that has everyone's panties wadded up. Spotrac is correct. At this point I don't really put too much into draft picks from 3 years ago. The reason I highlighted his pay vs performance is that when one is cash strapped (against the cap) value is huge, and it is not going to get any better in 2014 with the lengthy FA list. Most of them can go but a few are keepers. New Orleans Saints Free Agents - 2014 I am a paid Spotrac-er and I didnt want weighted years so I went by ave salary.

11-11-2013, 10:45 AM	#10
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas) Good on MI for having a great game last night. There was 1 thing that I noticed, that I "think" was different. Most of Ingram's good/big runs came when he was running behind Collins. I don't recall a lot of Ingram's previous runs being with a FB in front. Now granted, due to my location I don't really get to watch a lot of Saints games, so I may be completely off base. pherein likes this.

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