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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Next week against the 40-whiners will the acid test for acid Ingram. Not saying he has to rush for over a 100 yds, but if he can come close to Sunday night's performance against a good ...

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Old 11-11-2013, 08:09 AM   #1
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 View Post
Next week against the 40-whiners will the acid test for acid Ingram.

Not saying he has to rush for over a 100 yds, but if he can come close to Sunday night's performance against a good defense then I will be a believer as well.
Its more of an acid test for the O-line than it is for Ingram.
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:37 AM   #2
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Ingram, on ever run, #1 priority was to protect the ball. Regardless of his production, he didn't fumble, and it was a considerable effort given that two or three cowgirls were hanging on his arms rather than tackling him. He gained more yards than he otherwise should have, but you only can take what the defense gives. For that reason alone he's in my book with a check plus.
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As important as the rushing yards, I was pleased to see him get some catches.

If he can be a decent receiving threat out of the backfield, it helps prevent the opposing D assuming run every time he is in the game (and being right).
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Lets not all break out the midnight douche canoes.

I am as critical of Ingram as anyone in this forum, and while there is a good bit of rationalization going on its no more or less than after all of his bad games.

In the end, we ALL want someone on the field that will succeed and I find it highly unlikely that any Saints fan the world round wants Ingram to play badly, as "wanting" any Saints player to play badly means you are wearing a Falcons jersey.

To all the people that drooled over that last statement. I have never once hoped he would have a bad game... He just had them and I pointed them out.
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Don't call it Ingram haters... his performance warranted it.

One game against a D like Dallas doesn't make him a pro-bowler just yet unless we get to play Dallas every week.

But I do home that this game helped him with his vision and got him to see and understand what he has to do for us.

Also keep in mind Dallas had no LB's.
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Don't call it Ingram haters... his performance warranted it.

One game against a D like Dallas doesn't make him a pro-bowler just yet unless we get to play Dallas every week.

But I do home that this game helped him with his vision and got him to see and understand what he has to do for us.

Also keep in mind Dallas had no LB's.
No, its haters. I know what haters look like, and he had numerous haters.

No one is calling him a pro-bowler.

His vision wasn't as much of the problem as being surrounded by 3 defenders 1 micro-second after getting the hand-off was.

The O-line was opening holes, and he did what he was supposed to do.
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No, its haters. I know what haters look like, and he had numerous haters.

No one is calling him a pro-bowler.

His vision wasn't as much of the problem as being surrounded by 3 defenders 1 micro-second after getting the hand-off was.

The O-line was opening holes, and he did what he was supposed to do.
Correct me if I am wrong, isn't the test of even a good back the ability to run where there isn't much of a hole?

Its quite logical that with a good hole, any back could run.
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Correct me if I am wrong, isn't the test of even a good back the ability to run where there isn't much of a hole?

Its quite logical that with a good hole, any back could run.
That wasn't my point.

Its logical that even good backs will be tackled for a loss when surrounded by defenders immediately after the hand-off.
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:03 AM   #9
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I don't care what kind of defense Dallas has I was so happy for Ingram to finally get something. I cheered for him during those runs harder than I have cheered for anyone this season. I didn't care about the penalty he got after his first big run and I felt like he finally got the weight of the world off of his shoulders when he got that touchdown and slid to his knees!
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Great game by Mark. Didn't like the excessive emotion at the beginning of the game but he got it out of his system.

I know the Dallas D was injured and exhausted last night, but we might have found something with that jumbo-I formation and the blocking scheme to create holes for MI and PT. We may not pile up yards like last night often but the important thing is I think we found the running scheme that works best for this offensive line and Collins.
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