Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees

blackangold · 11-18-2013, 08:58 PM

Shouldn't be fined. The call could have gone either way. Personally I think we got away with one there, but its about time we get a break. As for Lewis; lay off the guy, its not like he is glad Brees got hit he is just frustrated with how the game has to be played now and you know what so am I.

TheOak · 11-18-2013, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Shouldn't be fined. The call could have gone either way. Personally I think we got away with one there, but its about time we get a break. As for Lewis; lay off the guy, its not like he is glad Brees got hit he is just frustrated with how the game has to be played now and you know what so am I.

If Lewis opens his pie hole he gets what's coming.

I won't lay off the douche bag.

blackangold · 11-18-2013, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

If Lewis opens his pie hole he gets what's coming.

I won't lay off the douche bag.

He literally gets paid to talk about these things lol...

I don't hate Lewis any more than some person walking down the street I don't know. The guy was never convicted of anything and who am I to judge someone without evidence or believe he 'got off'.

TheOak · 11-18-2013, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He literally gets paid to talk about these things lol...

I don't hate Lewis any more than some person walking down the street I don't know. The guy was never convicted of anything and who am I to judge someone without evidence or believe he 'got off'.

You can live your life in the dark knowing nothing with out a conviction if you chose. You don't understand the difference between commentary and offering to pay someone's fine?

OJ did it.... so did Ray Lewis.... And I've seen enough of life to know that on more than one occasion; what someone did, and what someone can prove are two different things.

Here, you want to live by that sword? Rodger Goodell hasn't been convicted of damaging the NFL or any unfair treatment of the Saints in his career... Now fall on your own sword.

blackangold · 11-18-2013, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You can live your life in the dark knowing nothing with out a conviction if you chose. You don't understand the difference between commentary and offering to pay someone's fine?

OJ did it.... so did Ray Lewis.... And I've seen enough of life to know that on more than one occasion; what someone did, and what someone can prove are two different things.

Here, you want to live by that sword? Rodger Goodell hasn't been convicted of damaging the NFL or any unfair treatment of the Saints in his career... Now fall on your own sword.

Lewis paying the fine is nothing but commentary. Do you think brooks needs help financially? No. Lewis is merely making a statement about his displeasure with the leagues calls. This was just a way for him to speak out, and apparently he is getting a lot of attention.

There is a difference between preponderance of evidence and reasonable doubt. Just like in OJs case there was reasonable doubt, although in civil litigation he was determined to be guilty by the preponderance of evidence. You can use this same example with Lewis.

I for one choose to live in a world where people dont get sentenced to life in prison or death unless they are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Now you may choose to live in whatever world you want to but that's not reallity.

As for Goodell, he has done nothing criminal so comparisons between him and some other individual accused of a crime isn't intelligent. Goodell may have done things to land himself in civil litigation but that has yet to come forth.

TheOak · 11-19-2013, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Lewis paying the fine is nothing but commentary. Do you think brooks needs help financially? No. Lewis is merely making a statement about his displeasure with the leagues calls. This was just a way for him to speak out, and apparently he is getting a lot of attention.

There is a difference between preponderance of evidence and reasonable doubt. Just like in OJs case there was reasonable doubt, although in civil litigation he was determined to be guilty by the preponderance of evidence. You can use this same example with Lewis.

I for one choose to live in a world where people dont get sentenced to life in prison or death unless they are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Now you may choose to live in whatever world you want to but that's not reallity.

As for Goodell, he has done nothing criminal so comparisons between him and some other individual accused of a crime isn't intelligent. Goodell may have done things to land himself in civil litigation but that has yet to come forth.

Reality? The reality of this world is that innocent people go to jail and guilty people walk freely everyday. The reality is that guilt/innocence is not determined by evidence or lack there of; but by skill of the lawyer. The reality is that your ignoring what you see and letting other people decide for you.

You either know very little about Lewis, very little about OJ, or little about both. The cases are nothing alike. Ray flipped on his friends so he wouldn't have to stand trial. That alone makes him a rat. OJ faced juries, which puts him one level above Ray Lewis. Not that either deserves to be put out in the event of a fire.

You assume a lot for someone who can't form an opinion until a jury convenes.

You assume Brooks is financially stable.
You assume Lewis doesn't want anyone hurt.

You also assumed you could tell me who I should lay off of. The bromance is clear and evident, or should I say there is a "preponderance" of it.

Rugby Saint II · 11-19-2013, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Lewis paying the fine is nothing but commentary. Do you think brooks needs help financially? No. Lewis is merely making a statement about his displeasure with the leagues calls. This was just a way for him to speak out, and apparently he is getting a lot of attention.

There is a difference between preponderance of evidence and reasonable doubt. Just like in OJs case there was reasonable doubt, although in civil litigation he was determined to be guilty by the preponderance of evidence. You can use this same example with Lewis.

I for one choose to live in a world where people dont get sentenced to life in prison or death unless they are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Now you may choose to live in whatever world you want to but that's not reallity.

As for Goodell, he has done nothing criminal so comparisons between him and some other individual accused of a crime isn't intelligent. Goodell may have done things to land himself in civil litigation but that has yet to come forth.

I like you buddy and I respect your opinion..........but what Godhell has done is definitely criminal!

44Champs · 11-19-2013, 09:54 AM

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WHODATINCA · 11-18-2013, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Shouldn't be fined. The call could have gone either way. Personally I think we got away with one there, but its about time we get a break. As for Lewis; lay off the guy, its not like he is glad Brees got hit he is just frustrated with how the game has to be played now and you know what so am I.

Guess what? It is too fvckin' bad that Lewis is frustrated. It is also too fvckin' bad that some people ( who don't have ANY decision making power in the NFL ) don't happen to think the rules should be the rules. He should be fined, just like all the other shi*ty players are fined.

And, how do you know what he is glad or isn't glad about? From what I've seen Lewis is one crazy fvck.

I do not see why players need to become: a) a grease spot on the field, b) or a paraplegic, or c) attle-brained beyond recognition, by the time they retire, for some fans to be happy.

Lay off the guy....you must be joking.

11-18-2013, 08:58 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Shouldn't be fined. The call could have gone either way. Personally I think we got away with one there, but its about time we get a break. As for Lewis; lay off the guy, its not like he is glad Brees got hit he is just frustrated with how the game has to be played now and you know what so am I. foreverfan likes this.

11-18-2013, 09:00 PM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by blackangold Shouldn't be fined. The call could have gone either way. Personally I think we got away with one there, but its about time we get a break. As for Lewis; lay off the guy, its not like he is glad Brees got hit he is just frustrated with how the game has to be played now and you know what so am I. If Lewis opens his pie hole he gets what's coming. I won't lay off the douche bag. st thomas, SloMotion and aintasinner like this.

11-18-2013, 09:11 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by TheOak If Lewis opens his pie hole he gets what's coming. I won't lay off the douche bag. He literally gets paid to talk about these things lol... I don't hate Lewis any more than some person walking down the street I don't know. The guy was never convicted of anything and who am I to judge someone without evidence or believe he 'got off'.

11-18-2013, 10:32 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by blackangold He literally gets paid to talk about these things lol... I don't hate Lewis any more than some person walking down the street I don't know. The guy was never convicted of anything and who am I to judge someone without evidence or believe he 'got off'. You can live your life in the dark knowing nothing with out a conviction if you chose. You don't understand the difference between commentary and offering to pay someone's fine? OJ did it.... so did Ray Lewis.... And I've seen enough of life to know that on more than one occasion; what someone did, and what someone can prove are two different things. Here, you want to live by that sword? Rodger Goodell hasn't been convicted of damaging the NFL or any unfair treatment of the Saints in his career... Now fall on your own sword.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

11-18-2013, 11:02 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by TheOak You can live your life in the dark knowing nothing with out a conviction if you chose. You don't understand the difference between commentary and offering to pay someone's fine? OJ did it.... so did Ray Lewis.... And I've seen enough of life to know that on more than one occasion; what someone did, and what someone can prove are two different things. Here, you want to live by that sword? Rodger Goodell hasn't been convicted of damaging the NFL or any unfair treatment of the Saints in his career... Now fall on your own sword. Lewis paying the fine is nothing but commentary. Do you think brooks needs help financially? No. Lewis is merely making a statement about his displeasure with the leagues calls. This was just a way for him to speak out, and apparently he is getting a lot of attention. There is a difference between preponderance of evidence and reasonable doubt. Just like in OJs case there was reasonable doubt, although in civil litigation he was determined to be guilty by the preponderance of evidence. You can use this same example with Lewis. I for one choose to live in a world where people dont get sentenced to life in prison or death unless they are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Now you may choose to live in whatever world you want to but that's not reallity. As for Goodell, he has done nothing criminal so comparisons between him and some other individual accused of a crime isn't intelligent. Goodell may have done things to land himself in civil litigation but that has yet to come forth.

11-19-2013, 07:04 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by blackangold Lewis paying the fine is nothing but commentary. Do you think brooks needs help financially? No. Lewis is merely making a statement about his displeasure with the leagues calls. This was just a way for him to speak out, and apparently he is getting a lot of attention. There is a difference between preponderance of evidence and reasonable doubt. Just like in OJs case there was reasonable doubt, although in civil litigation he was determined to be guilty by the preponderance of evidence. You can use this same example with Lewis. I for one choose to live in a world where people dont get sentenced to life in prison or death unless they are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Now you may choose to live in whatever world you want to but that's not reallity. As for Goodell, he has done nothing criminal so comparisons between him and some other individual accused of a crime isn't intelligent. Goodell may have done things to land himself in civil litigation but that has yet to come forth. Reality? The reality of this world is that innocent people go to jail and guilty people walk freely everyday. The reality is that guilt/innocence is not determined by evidence or lack there of; but by skill of the lawyer. The reality is that your ignoring what you see and letting other people decide for you. You either know very little about Lewis, very little about OJ, or little about both. The cases are nothing alike. Ray flipped on his friends so he wouldn't have to stand trial. That alone makes him a rat. OJ faced juries, which puts him one level above Ray Lewis. Not that either deserves to be put out in the event of a fire. You assume a lot for someone who can't form an opinion until a jury convenes. You assume Brooks is financially stable. You assume Lewis doesn't want anyone hurt. You also assumed you could tell me who I should lay off of. The bromance is clear and evident, or should I say there is a "preponderance" of it.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

11-19-2013, 12:30 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by blackangold Lewis paying the fine is nothing but commentary. Do you think brooks needs help financially? No. Lewis is merely making a statement about his displeasure with the leagues calls. This was just a way for him to speak out, and apparently he is getting a lot of attention. There is a difference between preponderance of evidence and reasonable doubt. Just like in OJs case there was reasonable doubt, although in civil litigation he was determined to be guilty by the preponderance of evidence. You can use this same example with Lewis. I for one choose to live in a world where people dont get sentenced to life in prison or death unless they are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Now you may choose to live in whatever world you want to but that's not reallity. As for Goodell, he has done nothing criminal so comparisons between him and some other individual accused of a crime isn't intelligent. Goodell may have done things to land himself in civil litigation but that has yet to come forth. I like you buddy and I respect your opinion..........but what Godhell has done is definitely criminal!

11-19-2013, 09:54 AM	#8
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11-18-2013, 11:25 PM	#9
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by blackangold Shouldn't be fined. The call could have gone either way. Personally I think we got away with one there, but its about time we get a break. As for Lewis; lay off the guy, its not like he is glad Brees got hit he is just frustrated with how the game has to be played now and you know what so am I. Guess what? It is too fvckin' bad that Lewis is frustrated. It is also too fvckin' bad that some people ( who don't have ANY decision making power in the NFL ) don't happen to think the rules should be the rules. He should be fined, just like all the other shi*ty players are fined. And, how do you know what he is glad or isn't glad about? From what I've seen Lewis is one crazy fvck. I do not see why players need to become: a) a grease spot on the field, b) or a paraplegic, or c) attle-brained beyond recognition, by the time they retire, for some fans to be happy. Lay off the guy....you must be joking.
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