Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees

Mardigras9 · 11-19-2013, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Disagree with a couple of your statements here.
First off in today's game and the mode of player safety, blows like this to the head or neck area that could have been prevented will and should be fined. Brooks could have hit Brees lower, he wasn't blocked at all and could have nailed Drew in the midsection but chose to swing his arm high.
Second, it shouldn't matter who the QB is they should all benefit from the same calls.

Appreciate that, but that kinda was my point concerning the Brooks hit, the defense should make a conscious effort to swing mid chest which means they would have to take into account the size of the QB.
I agree it shouldn't matter who the QB is, the rules should be universal, but IMO the reality is QB's like Manning or Brady get the calls quicker (and a lot of the times they are always questionable).
As far as being fined, was the swing from Brooks a blatant attempt to injure Brees? The hit was brutal and I never want to see Brees get hit like that, just not sure it was meliscious.

TheOak · 11-19-2013, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Appreciate that, but that kinda was my point concerning the Brooks hit, the defense should make a conscious effort to swing mid chest which means they would have to take into account the size of the QB.
I agree it shouldn't matter who the QB is, the rules should be universal, but IMO the reality is QB's like Manning or Brady get the calls quicker (and a lot of the times they are always questionable).
As far as being fined, was the swing from Brooks a blatant attempt to injure Brees? The hit was brutal and I never want to see Brees get hit like that, just not sure it was meliscious.

Why is anyone "swinging"?

Wrap or grab... No need to go club arming people. Had brooks let his arm hit Drews chest at the speed he was running then wrap or hang on he would have still gone down and there would have been no penalty.

We are not zombies... no need to start beating people with arms.

ikecomp · 11-19-2013, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Why is anyone "swinging"?

Wrap or grab... No need to go club arming people. Had brooks let his arm hit Drews chest at the speed he was running then wrap or hang on he would have still gone down and there would have been no penalty.

We are not zombies... no need to start beating people with arms.

I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. Nothing wrong with swinging your arms around as long as it doesn't hit above the shoulders. In this case, it happened to be above the shoulders but any other situation dlineman/linebackers are being taught to "swat" or "swing" at the qb's chest and arms to try to cause a sack fumble. Once again, I'm not saying the brooks hit was legal but swinging at a player to try to dislodge the ball is not against the rules. You just have to be aware of the consequences if you miss and hit too high.

11-19-2013, 09:31 AM	#1
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Disagree with a couple of your statements here. First off in today's game and the mode of player safety, blows like this to the head or neck area that could have been prevented will and should be fined. Brooks could have hit Brees lower, he wasn't blocked at all and could have nailed Drew in the midsection but chose to swing his arm high. Second, it shouldn't matter who the QB is they should all benefit from the same calls. Appreciate that, but that kinda was my point concerning the Brooks hit, the defense should make a conscious effort to swing mid chest which means they would have to take into account the size of the QB. I agree it shouldn't matter who the QB is, the rules should be universal, but IMO the reality is QB's like Manning or Brady get the calls quicker (and a lot of the times they are always questionable). As far as being fined, was the swing from Brooks a blatant attempt to injure Brees? The hit was brutal and I never want to see Brees get hit like that, just not sure it was meliscious.
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11-19-2013, 11:05 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Appreciate that, but that kinda was my point concerning the Brooks hit, the defense should make a conscious effort to swing mid chest which means they would have to take into account the size of the QB. I agree it shouldn't matter who the QB is, the rules should be universal, but IMO the reality is QB's like Manning or Brady get the calls quicker (and a lot of the times they are always questionable). As far as being fined, was the swing from Brooks a blatant attempt to injure Brees? The hit was brutal and I never want to see Brees get hit like that, just not sure it was meliscious. Why is anyone "swinging"? Wrap or grab... No need to go club arming people. Had brooks let his arm hit Drews chest at the speed he was running then wrap or hang on he would have still gone down and there would have been no penalty. We are not zombies... no need to start beating people with arms.

11-19-2013, 12:46 PM	#3
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees Originally Posted by TheOak Why is anyone "swinging"? Wrap or grab... No need to go club arming people. Had brooks let his arm hit Drews chest at the speed he was running then wrap or hang on he would have still gone down and there would have been no penalty. We are not zombies... no need to start beating people with arms. I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. Nothing wrong with swinging your arms around as long as it doesn't hit above the shoulders. In this case, it happened to be above the shoulders but any other situation dlineman/linebackers are being taught to "swat" or "swing" at the qb's chest and arms to try to cause a sack fumble. Once again, I'm not saying the brooks hit was legal but swinging at a player to try to dislodge the ball is not against the rules. You just have to be aware of the consequences if you miss and hit too high.
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