Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

I never liked Ray Lewis; this didn't change anything!

Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees - Pro Football Zone

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Criminals stick together sometimes.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Brooks should not be fined.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

In that case, I hope the fine is $1 million.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Ray Lewis won't last long in the booth if he continues his involvement as he just tweeted he would pay half of Brooks' fine. That's works for me.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Dude once paid off people to avoid a murder rap.

So not his first rodeo paying for something.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Used to respect ray lewis but since he left football his brain cells have slowly been dying

You are going to support a player that nearly broke a QB's neck?

Good luck with that douche

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

That was the turning play of the game

Just incredible an ex player now announcer would encourage such a thing

Sounds like a write in campaign to the network might get their attention

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

So which email address works best at ESPN for getting someone fired?

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

I agree with the call. According to the rules, it warrants a flag. But I don't think that type of hit deserves a flag either. No homer glasses on Burna. 100.

Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Being a member of the NFLPA if Lewis contributes to pay a fine it is considered compensation and has Salary Cap implications.


I suppose if he were a thinking man he wouldn't have had to flip and squeal.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Thug!

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Shouldn't be fined. The call could have gone either way. Personally I think we got away with one there, but its about time we get a break. As for Lewis; lay off the guy, its not like he is glad Brees got hit he is just frustrated with how the game has to be played now and you know what so am I.

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If Lewis opens his pie hole he gets what's coming.

I won't lay off the douche bag.

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I don't think he should be fined. IMO it was not malicious and just incidental. 10 years ago that hit would be legal the nfl has just pussified the qb position to the point where a player is better off if they don't touch the qb at all.

I agree though I hate Lewis

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He literally gets paid to talk about these things lol...

I don't hate Lewis any more than some person walking down the street I don't know. The guy was never convicted of anything and who am I to judge someone without evidence or believe he 'got off'.

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I hope he offers to pay Gallette's and Jordan's fines when they feed Mouth Breather Ryan a hearty serving of whoopass on Thursday Night.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Ray Lewis is a murderer and the fact he is even on TV is ridiculous.

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Mouth Breather LOL

http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/MOUTHBREATHER.jpg

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Brooks is financed and backed by a murderer. Better watch yourself, #55....Ray Ray will be coming back in the near future for a "favor"...Godfather-style!

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You can live your life in the dark knowing nothing with out a conviction if you chose. You don't understand the difference between commentary and offering to pay someone's fine?

OJ did it.... so did Ray Lewis.... And I've seen enough of life to know that on more than one occasion; what someone did, and what someone can prove are two different things.

Here, you want to live by that sword? Rodger Goodell hasn't been convicted of damaging the NFL or any unfair treatment of the Saints in his career... Now fall on your own sword.

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TheDude, these are THE RULES today. It was a clothesline tackle, and under THE RULES it should be flagged, as well as fined. Who's team are you on? I question your side, almost every time I see a post from you.

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Lewis paying the fine is nothing but commentary. Do you think brooks needs help financially? No. Lewis is merely making a statement about his displeasure with the leagues calls. This was just a way for him to speak out, and apparently he is getting a lot of attention.

There is a difference between preponderance of evidence and reasonable doubt. Just like in OJs case there was reasonable doubt, although in civil litigation he was determined to be guilty by the preponderance of evidence. You can use this same example with Lewis.

I for one choose to live in a world where people dont get sentenced to life in prison or death unless they are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Now you may choose to live in whatever world you want to but that's not reallity.

As for Goodell, he has done nothing criminal so comparisons between him and some other individual accused of a crime isn't intelligent. Goodell may have done things to land himself in civil litigation but that has yet to come forth.

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Guess what? It is too fvckin' bad that Lewis is frustrated. It is also too fvckin' bad that some people ( who don't have ANY decision making power in the NFL ) don't happen to think the rules should be the rules. He should be fined, just like all the other shi*ty players are fined.

And, how do you know what he is glad or isn't glad about? From what I've seen Lewis is one crazy fvck.

I do not see why players need to become: a) a grease spot on the field, b) or a paraplegic, or c) attle-brained beyond recognition, by the time they retire, for some fans to be happy.

Lay off the guy....you must be joking. :-)

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We might all be homers, but that hit was vicious and clearly deserving of a flag. I don't like when a player gets flagged for basically just touching a quarterback's helmet, which seems to happen a lot. But this guy went out of his way to clothes-line Brees when he had every opportunity to make a clean tackle. It wasn't one of those last second freak accidents. And you are not going to convince me that it was anything but intentional.

But what bothers me is how they act like that was the game. I saw a lot of bs calls go against us, and I also saw the 49ers hold our D-line constantly and not get called.

Even if I ignore all that AND if I say that the brooks call was somehow wrong, then it still didn't decide the game. the 49ers got the ball back and went absolutely nowhere. If they couldn't get a first down when they NEEDED to score, what makes anyone think they would have been able to run out the clock when they didn't need to score after the -would be- fumble? We stopped them cold and went down and won the game. I'm sick of hearing about the stupid call "costing" the whiners the game. We won and I'm damn proud of this team for it. End of story.

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i hate to say it but i love that style of hitting. puts players out of games. but it is against the rules.

Now Ray blaming Drew height as the reason for the flag was totally bogus. when he uses wr as a reason while he is up on his pulpit then i will listen but this is rating crap.

The hit is dirty even back in the day

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crips 4 life?

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Reality? The reality of this world is that innocent people go to jail and guilty people walk freely everyday. The reality is that guilt/innocence is not determined by evidence or lack there of; but by skill of the lawyer. The reality is that your ignoring what you see and letting other people decide for you.

You either know very little about Lewis, very little about OJ, or little about both. The cases are nothing alike. Ray flipped on his friends so he wouldn't have to stand trial. That alone makes him a rat. OJ faced juries, which puts him one level above Ray Lewis. Not that either deserves to be put out in the event of a fire.

You assume a lot for someone who can't form an opinion until a jury convenes.

You assume Brooks is financially stable.
You assume Lewis doesn't want anyone hurt.

You also assumed you could tell me who I should lay off of. The bromance is clear and evident, or should I say there is a "preponderance" of it.

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The point is moot.... If they get the ball there then they have the oppurtunity to close out the game, but the call didn't decide the game, just as the no call of the safety didn't decide it for us.... Good call ref.

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10 years ago you could hit a defenseless receiver also or actually there was no such thing as defenseless receiver. Hitting one these days always draws a fine. I will be highly shocked if this hit doesn't draw a fine. You have the same space that a pitcher has as a strike-zone. Above the knees and below the armpits, If you can't hit a guy in the bellybutton you are just trying to take someone out of the game or end his career.

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He coiled up and swung... That will get him a fine. The league will be looking at the 3 seconds before the hit.

Had he just inadvertently hit Drew it wouldn't have been a fine.

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If this exact hit would have been to Peyton Manning's surgically repaired neck all we would hear from these idiots all week is them screaming that Brooks should be suspended.

Officially done with ESPN.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Ray Lewis is a murderer. End of story.

Re: Ray Lewis willing to help Ahmad Brooks fine for his hit on Drew Brees
 

Correct. Ray Lewis is indeed a murderer.

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I agree, shouldn't be a fine.
He was penalized in the game and according to the rules that was correct.

The hit was high and the defensive players just can't do that, no matter how tall the QB is. Their gameplan for sacking the QB, if given the chance, should take into account what the QB size is to avoid this type of penalty.

Hell, really the defense should really take into account who the QB is also, who will get the flag quicker a hit on Peyton Manning or a hit on Blaine Gabbert?

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Disagree with a couple of your statements here.
First off in today's game and the mode of player safety, blows like this to the head or neck area that could have been prevented will and should be fined. Brooks could have hit Brees lower, he wasn't blocked at all and could have nailed Drew in the midsection but chose to swing his arm high.
Second, it shouldn't matter who the QB is they should all benefit from the same calls.

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Appreciate that, but that kinda was my point concerning the Brooks hit, the defense should make a conscious effort to swing mid chest which means they would have to take into account the size of the QB.
I agree it shouldn't matter who the QB is, the rules should be universal, but IMO the reality is QB's like Manning or Brady get the calls quicker (and a lot of the times they are always questionable).
As far as being fined, was the swing from Brooks a blatant attempt to injure Brees? The hit was brutal and I never want to see Brees get hit like that, just not sure it was meliscious.

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It was a classic clothesline tackle, which has been illegal since the day of Dick "Night Train" Lane. A player named Don Pellington for the Colts, once wrapped his arm in a plaster cast, with a steel rod in it, then put bandage padding over it so the refs couldn't see, and knocked a player unconscious by clotheslining him with it at a game in 1959. It's not like the refs are suddenly changing the rules or changing the way the game is played, this particular types of hit has been illegal for decades. That's right, decades.

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Why is Brees's height of any significance?

It's not like it was a surprise...