Concerns in the secondary

FeelTheBrees · 11-20-2013, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

He is the same player alright... No one knew what player he was then as it was before the season started.
A Brief Statistical Send-Off for Nnamdi Asomugha - Niners Nation

Big name but would it really be an upgrade over what we have now? i don't think so.

I agree he is clearly on the backside of his career, but using 3 games to define him is pretty unfair. Heck, the fact that he even saw the field on a 40whiner defense with so much depth (sorry to admit this) shows that he must have something left.

He's played under Rob before which is a plus. He is physically a big CB which is a plus.

I guess my main point is that it seems like Nnamdi would have a better CHANCE of at least being activated and being a body we can have in case of an emergency. I'm not sure if we can say the same about Trevin Wade for this year at least.

Danno · 11-20-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by FeelTheBrees

I'm still a bit disappointed we haven't made a move on Nnamdi. Didn't we make a modest offer to him after he worked with us before the season? If he was good enough then to make an offer to, then he is probably still the same player he was a few months ago, and now we need him even more.

Why not sign a veteran who has proven his abilities rather than an unproven Trevin Wade who won't even see the active 53?

Of course these are the thoughts of a layman from the outside looking in. I will continue to trust in Sean, Rob, and Mick.

I heard the NFLNetwork guys talking about his leg injury. They said he claimed his injury was slowing him down and maybe he hasn't recovered completely. They also mentioned it may have just been an excuse as to why he was released.

For Rob Ryan to pass on a stud player he previously coached, he must know something we all don't.

FeelTheBrees · 11-20-2013, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I heard the NFLNetwork guys talking about his leg injury. They said he claimed his injury was slowing him down and maybe he hasn't recovered completely. They also mentioned it may have just been an excuse as to why he was released.

For Rob Ryan to pass on a stud player he previously coached, he must know something we all don't.

Gotta be it.

Budsdrinker · 11-20-2013, 10:29 AM

I hope Wade can play ST because White was playing ST well but now that he is #2 CB he may be relieved of some of his ST duties or Wade will be thrown in to some coverage duties to give White a breather.

SaintsBro · 11-20-2013, 11:39 AM

Ten year veteran league minimum, is a LOT more than 2nd year player league minimum. Might be part of the reason. Or not.

TheOak · 11-20-2013, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Ten year veteran league minimum, is a LOT more than 2nd year player league minimum. Might be part of the reason. Or not.

Its right near 1M now. (920k)

SapperSaint · 11-20-2013, 12:05 PM

What CB's are out there in FA?

SapperSaint · 11-20-2013, 12:10 PM

Cornerbacks

Antoine Winfield
Sheldon Brown
Ronald Bartell
Jacob Lacey
Marcus Trufant
Jason Allen
Chris Johnson
Cedric Griffin
Joselio Hanson
Ras-I Dowling
Stanford Routt
William Middleton
Terrence McGee
Shawntae Spencer
Pat Lee
Justin King
Myron Lewis
Elbert Mack
Demarcus Van Dyke
Ryan Mouton

Safeties

Kerry Rhodes
Kenny Phillips
Nate Clements
Jordan Babineaux
Tom Zbikowski
Haruki Nakamura
Eric Smith
Atari Bigby
Amari Spievey
Robert Johnson
Abram Elam
Sherrod Martin
Chris Crocker
Corey Lynch
Tyler Sash
2013 NFL Free Agents - Free Agency Update - Rotoworld.com

WhoDatFan26 · 11-20-2013, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Cornerbacks

Antoine Winfield
Sheldon Brown
Ronald Bartell
Jacob Lacey
Marcus Trufant
Jason Allen
Chris Johnson
Cedric Griffin
Joselio Hanson
Ras-I Dowling
Stanford Routt
William Middleton
Terrence McGee
Shawntae Spencer
Pat Lee
Justin King
Myron Lewis
Elbert Mack
Demarcus Van Dyke
Ryan Mouton

Safeties

Kerry Rhodes
Kenny Phillips
Nate Clements
Jordan Babineaux
Tom Zbikowski
Haruki Nakamura
Eric Smith
Atari Bigby
Amari Spievey
Robert Johnson
Abram Elam
Sherrod Martin
Chris Crocker
Corey Lynch
Tyler Sash
2013 NFL Free Agents - Free Agency Update - Rotoworld.com

You forgot Nnamdi. He's still out there, but now he's married to Kerry Washington so he may be a little busy.

exile · 11-20-2013, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Cornerbacks

Antoine Winfield
Sheldon Brown
Ronald Bartell
Jacob Lacey
Marcus Trufant
Jason Allen
Chris Johnson
Cedric Griffin
Joselio Hanson
Ras-I Dowling
Stanford Routt
William Middleton
Terrence McGee
Shawntae Spencer
Pat Lee
Justin King
Myron Lewis
Elbert Mack
Demarcus Van Dyke
Ryan Mouton

Safeties

Kerry Rhodes
Kenny Phillips
Nate Clements
Jordan Babineaux
Tom Zbikowski
Haruki Nakamura
Eric Smith
Atari Bigby
Amari Spievey
Robert Johnson
Abram Elam
Sherrod Martin
Chris Crocker
Corey Lynch
Tyler Sash
2013 NFL Free Agents - Free Agency Update - Rotoworld.com

This was from back in September. Not sure how may are still sitting at home still.

11-20-2013, 10:51 AM	#1
FeelTheBrees Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 60	Re: Concerns in the secondary Originally Posted by TheOak He is the same player alright... No one knew what player he was then as it was before the season started. A Brief Statistical Send-Off for Nnamdi Asomugha - Niners Nation Big name but would it really be an upgrade over what we have now? i don't think so. I agree he is clearly on the backside of his career, but using 3 games to define him is pretty unfair. Heck, the fact that he even saw the field on a 40whiner defense with so much depth (sorry to admit this) shows that he must have something left. He's played under Rob before which is a plus. He is physically a big CB which is a plus. I guess my main point is that it seems like Nnamdi would have a better CHANCE of at least being activated and being a body we can have in case of an emergency. I'm not sure if we can say the same about Trevin Wade for this year at least.
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11-20-2013, 10:54 AM	#3
FeelTheBrees Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 60	Re: Concerns in the secondary Originally Posted by Danno I heard the NFLNetwork guys talking about his leg injury. They said he claimed his injury was slowing him down and maybe he hasn't recovered completely. They also mentioned it may have just been an excuse as to why he was released. For Rob Ryan to pass on a stud player he previously coached, he must know something we all don't. Gotta be it.
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11-20-2013, 10:29 AM	#4
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Concerns in the secondary I hope Wade can play ST because White was playing ST well but now that he is #2 CB he may be relieved of some of his ST duties or Wade will be thrown in to some coverage duties to give White a breather.

11-20-2013, 11:39 AM	#5
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Concerns in the secondary Ten year veteran league minimum, is a LOT more than 2nd year player league minimum. Might be part of the reason. Or not.

11-20-2013, 11:47 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Concerns in the secondary Originally Posted by SaintsBro Ten year veteran league minimum, is a LOT more than 2nd year player league minimum. Might be part of the reason. Or not. Its right near 1M now. (920k)

11-20-2013, 10:39 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Concerns in the secondary Originally Posted by FeelTheBrees I'm still a bit disappointed we haven't made a move on Nnamdi. Didn't we make a modest offer to him after he worked with us before the season? If he was good enough then to make an offer to, then he is probably still the same player he was a few months ago, and now we need him even more. Why not sign a veteran who has proven his abilities rather than an unproven Trevin Wade who won't even see the active 53? Of course these are the thoughts of a layman from the outside looking in. I will continue to trust in Sean, Rob, and Mick. I heard the NFLNetwork guys talking about his leg injury. They said he claimed his injury was slowing him down and maybe he hasn't recovered completely. They also mentioned it may have just been an excuse as to why he was released. For Rob Ryan to pass on a stud player he previously coached, he must know something we all don't.

11-20-2013, 12:05 PM	#7
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Concerns in the secondary What CB's are out there in FA?

11-20-2013, 12:10 PM	#8
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Concerns in the secondary Cornerbacks Antoine Winfield Sheldon Brown Ronald Bartell Jacob Lacey Marcus Trufant Jason Allen Chris Johnson Cedric Griffin Joselio Hanson Ras-I Dowling Stanford Routt William Middleton Terrence McGee Shawntae Spencer Pat Lee Justin King Myron Lewis Elbert Mack Demarcus Van Dyke Ryan Mouton Safeties Kerry Rhodes Kenny Phillips Nate Clements Jordan Babineaux Tom Zbikowski Haruki Nakamura Eric Smith Atari Bigby Amari Spievey Robert Johnson Abram Elam Sherrod Martin Chris Crocker Corey Lynch Tyler Sash 2013 NFL Free Agents - Free Agency Update - Rotoworld.com Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-20-2013, 12:56 PM	#9
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Concerns in the secondary Originally Posted by SapperSaint Cornerbacks Antoine Winfield Sheldon Brown Ronald Bartell Jacob Lacey Marcus Trufant Jason Allen Chris Johnson Cedric Griffin Joselio Hanson Ras-I Dowling Stanford Routt William Middleton Terrence McGee Shawntae Spencer Pat Lee Justin King Myron Lewis Elbert Mack Demarcus Van Dyke Ryan Mouton Safeties Kerry Rhodes Kenny Phillips Nate Clements Jordan Babineaux Tom Zbikowski Haruki Nakamura Eric Smith Atari Bigby Amari Spievey Robert Johnson Abram Elam Sherrod Martin Chris Crocker Corey Lynch Tyler Sash 2013 NFL Free Agents - Free Agency Update - Rotoworld.com You forgot Nnamdi. He's still out there, but now he's married to Kerry Washington so he may be a little busy.
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11-20-2013, 12:58 PM	#10
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Concerns in the secondary Originally Posted by SapperSaint Cornerbacks Antoine Winfield Sheldon Brown Ronald Bartell Jacob Lacey Marcus Trufant Jason Allen Chris Johnson Cedric Griffin Joselio Hanson Ras-I Dowling Stanford Routt William Middleton Terrence McGee Shawntae Spencer Pat Lee Justin King Myron Lewis Elbert Mack Demarcus Van Dyke Ryan Mouton Safeties Kerry Rhodes Kenny Phillips Nate Clements Jordan Babineaux Tom Zbikowski Haruki Nakamura Eric Smith Atari Bigby Amari Spievey Robert Johnson Abram Elam Sherrod Martin Chris Crocker Corey Lynch Tyler Sash 2013 NFL Free Agents - Free Agency Update - Rotoworld.com This was from back in September. Not sure how may are still sitting at home still.
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