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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by onanygivenSu Alright... we've established that you're either lazy or busy doing something more important... but what could be more important than this? Here's the skinny: The Saints have played only 4 games outdoors this year... @Jets, NE, ...

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Old 11-26-2013, 04:22 PM   #1
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Re: Monday forecast in Seattle...

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Alright... we've established that you're either lazy or busy doing something more important... but what could be more important than this?

Here's the skinny:

The Saints have played only 4 games outdoors this year... @Jets, NE, Chicago and TB.

In those, the Saints kicked off 23 times and there were 10 returns by the opponents, leaving 13 touchbacks for Hartley. I extracted the data by looking at the box scores for each of those 4 games.

Subtracting those from the totals you cited (42/64), that leaves Hartley's INDOORS touchback % at 78%... and not too surprising, a touchback % of only 56.5% outdoors.

Wind and temperature do matter.
Except. Hartley doesn't do the kickoffs.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:38 PM   #2
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Except. Hartley doesn't do the kickoffs.
Exactly what I was about to say. Good luck on Hartleys punting or kicking stats LOL.
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Exactly what I was about to say. Good luck on Hartleys punting or kicking stats LOL.
The WHO doesn't matter.

The stats are the stats.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:44 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by onanygivenSu View Post
The WHO doesn't matter.

The stats are the stats.
One thing that does skew your stats is that Morestead has used the short directional kick a number of times to pen the returner against the sideline to limit the return. The occasions were almost always outdoors if I remember correctly.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:45 PM   #5
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The WHO doesn't matter.

The stats are the stats.
Do you know what this is?


Stop crawfishin.

The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL

I do like your logic though... Plan on punting so much that it will effect the game.
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Re: Monday forecast in Seattle...

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Do you know what this is?


Stop crawfishin.

The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL

I do like your logic though... Plan on punting so much that it will effect the game.
That's true...... just how good is their punter? Do you have a backup punter?
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That's true...... just how good is their punter? Do you have a backup punter?
He doesn't score or intercept so is it really relevant?
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He doesn't score or intercept so is it really relevant?
Well, if it is a game of field position, it might be relevant. Also if he is Shankalicious revisited...
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The WHO matters when the YOU doesn't know who's stats to look up. LOL
I looked up game stats... not player stats. That's why the WHO doesn't matter.

I took the number of Saints scores in each out their 4 outdoor games and added 1 to it for their kickoff either at the start of the game or the start of the 3rd quarter. That's the number of Saints kickoffs for that game.

Next I looked at the opponents stats for the same game to see how many kickoff returns there were for that same game.

The difference between those numbers is the number of touch backs.

See, the who doesn't matter.
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I looked up game stats... not player stats. That's why the WHO doesn't matter.

I took the number of Saints scores in each out their 4 outdoor games and added 1 to it for their kickoff either at the start of the game or the start of the 3rd quarter. That's the number of Saints kickoffs for that game.

Next I looked at the opponents stats for the same game to see how many kickoff returns there were for that same game.

The difference between those numbers is the number of touch backs.

See, the who doesn't matter.
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