Brees' Downfield Passing vs Seattle Pass Defense
 

Drew Brees has been one of the best QBs at hitting long pass plays downfield this season. Drew has 45 passes of 20+ yards, only 2 behind the NFL lead, and 11 passes of 40+ yards, 1 behind the NFL lead.

The Seattle defense has been the stingiest at giving up big plays in the passing game, allowing on 22 passes for 20+ yards and 2 passes for 40+ yards.

Will be interesting to see how we attack them. We dinked and dunked vs Chicago and only took a couple of long shots against them (one of which should have been a Meachem TD save for pass interference they didn't call), but it worked to the tune of 26 points and a comfortable 18 point lead with 3 minutes to go in the game.

What say you?

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It comes down to 2 factors:

1) enough time to pass
2) Saints WR's NOT dropping the ball.

The muffs, flubbs, blunders, drops etc. must end or making it to the playoffs is only an extra couple games.

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With the Seahawks now having to play their 4th and 5th best corners for much of the game, would it not be prudent for us to play a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets? Now you're forcing them to play dime coverage and exploit some mismatches we are going to like a lot.

My initial thoughts were to be very balanced and run close to a 50/50 percentage. But I think now Payton is licking his chops and will have Brees throw the ball at least 45 times.

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Go deep early and often...

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That's what she said.

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I sure glad Mitchell is blasting out a bunch of crap about Brees being soft! That will be great message to post in the Saints locker room. The Saints will show who is soft and who owns the NFC next Monday night!!! Mitchell keep blasting Drew, that is really smart!!!

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Sorry, Mitchell plays for the Panthers not the Seahawks... Will be good ammunition on Sunday night against the Panthers in two weeks!!! Sorry about the mistake!!!!

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We could still be effective with running out of spread sets with Sproles or PT. They have to be respected in the run or the pass. Ingram may have to take a back seat in this one.

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i personally would like steady, doses of PT and Ingram with just a smattering of Sproles. Running against this team seams to work fairly well…should open up a lot of play-action. Sherman is one of the best, period, but he is known to be a gambler at times.

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The Seafarts are most likely expecting us to be pass happy because of their beat up secondary which is all the more reason why I think we should run,run, and run some more-even on 3rd and whatever. Also, alot of screen passing added to that would be nice. But when it comes down to it,Sean will have a nice little game plan in place. I have a feeling he's gonna treat this one like a playoff game

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stay with ball control passing game then take a shot or two each half off a dbl move. just keep them first downs coming and eat up that clock. put the pressure on the seahawks offense to keep pace and get lynch out of the game plan as much as possible.

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If we win the toss, I say defer and make their crowd calm down while their O takes the field...

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Deep passing will be a problem if the weather is truly in the 20 s and rainy.
I say try getting in there, go no huddle with pre meditated short yardage passing plays, mix in the run.. just be up tempo with the offense with multiple personnel changes to follow that to try and get the defense off their game, score early and get ahead. Let our defense try to hold up as they are the ones who would have the noise advantage.

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I like Sproles a lot in this game, lining up in the slot. Run Graham up that sideline to clear out room for him, and when they start creeping up BAM! you hit Jimmy over the top in single coverage.

Generally speaking though I think we play this one patiently. Lots of short passes, flare passes, 3 step drops. Keep the tempo up, go no-huddle a lot. It will slow their pass rush down and keep those young DB's on their heels all night. Nickel-and-dime them to death until they get impatient, screw up and leave the big play open. That is our game.

I think this is a game where Payton goes pass-happy to wear their legs out for a while, then goes to the run late in the game to finish them off. similar to the game plan against the Cardinals, who IMO have a very similar defense.

With the kind of defense we have now, combined with Brees being crazy good in the 2-minute offense, we should ALWAYS defer. How many games have we won basically because we had a 10-point or 14-point swing from the end of the 1st half to early in the 2nd? Seems like quite a few.

On the other side, Russell Wilson is efficient this year, but his overall numbers are not what you would see from a QB who carries his offense. Plus, he's fumbled a lot. 8 times, I believe. I like our chances of getting a crucial turnover or two deep in Seattle territory especially with the way Cam/Hicks are dominating people right now.

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Would be nice to get our running game going and dictate the flow of the game, however the colts proved the seahawks D can be beat when TY hilton burned them like 3 times

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Seattle D will press our WRs and try to give more time for the D line to get to Brees. Historically we struggle here.

I doubt we take many deep shots.

Run and screen game are key in this game

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Same thing said about Chicago...
Drew's best visitor passing outing this season.

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We heard the same type of stat about San Francisco in '11, that no one goes deep on them, they don't give up the big play....and then Drew dropped at least 3 or 4 bombs on them, including a TD to Graham....we lost that game on D but our offense in that game put up more points and yards on that SF defense, than any other team that year....

Look. I suppose we should all be impressed, that the Jaguars, Titans, Vikings and winless Tampa Bay Buccaneers can't go deep on the Seahawks or don't make the big play. All I see is that Andrew Luck and pre-pick 6 Matt Schaub, both were able to move the ball fairly easily against this Seahawks defense, and gave them all they could handle. And the Saints/Brees offense are > than both those offenses.

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Agreed, have to have some small passing success early to open up the run.
But it's going to be tough.

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I like the fact we can attack them so many ways. I'd rather us control clock and force them to abandon the run game. Anyone else see us playing Seattle like we did sf forcing them to beat us thru the air.

If Sean treats this like the SB/Conference I see this going well.

Onside kick for the win!

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The key to the game, imo, will be which team can run the ball effectively against the other.

Both teams have excellent passing QBs and multiple weapons in the passing game.

Seattle relies on their run game to set up their relatively-speaking seldom-used passing game. Thus far this year, Seattle runs the ball 55.6% of the time.

By comparison, the Saints run the ball only 38.7% of the time... and passes the ball 61.3% of the time. That's a lot.

Another key to the game will be whether Seattle's linebackers can quickly close on the ball when the Saints are in the short passing game attack mode. Wright, Wagner and Irvin are all fast and have been very effective in closing down on opponents' receivers in the short passing game, particularly at home.

Should be a fantastic game to watch. I'm stoked!!

I should add that when Drew does go down-field, Seattle has likely the fastest-closing FS in the league in Earl Thomas to be aware of.

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Forcing them to beat us through the air would be weather dependant IMO, if the weather is rainy and windy I can see that happening. The difference here is Wilson can actually make throws when compared to a shaky confidence lacking Kap in our house.

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Like the Joe Montana led Niners, we use the pass as a run play. It has the very same efficacy or better sometimes. But we have more than one back from which to choose. Lynch is good, but I doubt he replicates his production from the last time these teams faced each other.

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I agree. The key will be whether Seattle LBs can close quickly and stifle that tactic. We'll see.


You know, if you subtract out the 67-yard Beast Quake run, the Saints limited Lynch to just 64 yards on 18 carries for a 3.6 yd/attempt average, which is pretty damn good run D.

With the BQ run included, his numbers were 19 carries for 131 yards.

My prediction is Lynch gets somewhere around 85-90 yards total on Monday night... and RW likely gets ~30 himself in scrambles.

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We'll see. That what 49ers fans thought, to0, and they only managed a total of 81 yards rushing for the game.

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I think our biggest problem is special teams, if its not missed FGs its muffed punts. Clean it up and we wont struggle as much to win games

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Seattle has to set the pass up with run. like its been pointed out we do the opposite for the most part

stop Lynch well limit him, no one stops him and you have a great chance at winning the game.

they have to stop drew. suspensions in place? lol good luck

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First play from scrimmage should be a 45-yard gain.

Pick a receiver.

Alaska

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Golden Tate?

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and thats assuming we have any kind of playoff seed. First we have to beat Seattle
and Carolina twice. Then, I'll put on my Division crown.

Im seeing an inordinate amount of cockiness on the board lately, which I think
is really whistling in the graveyard. This is America, so guys, feel free to talk chit, and then have to eat it tuesday morning, (or dec 9 or dec 23) in the event our crowns are premature. I wont stop you.

But I see a very tough series of tests for us, with possibly the best team in the League next week. Not only do I like to be realistic, but if we do happen to light up the rest of this schedule, I think we should truly appreciate the magnitude of this team's accomplishment. Think of the night we beat the Patriots 40 something to 17, and kept our streak. You didnt KNOW we could
really be them. It was amazing when we did, and the uncertainty made it much better.

I like being loud and proud, and raising hell in the Dome. But humility serves us well also.

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Yeah, we could lose. Bummer
But we could just as likely stomp their ass. Not a bummer.

I'll go with stomping that ass.

If we lose it doesn't matter if we were cocky or humble, it hurts just the same.

But if we win it just feels a little better that we were cocky (or confident) about it.

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Im confident, but Im also real.
And I dont see any purpose in being a jerk to other teams fans
who visit us.
Normally, people applaud us for our coolness. Think SloMotion.
thats all.

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I fully intend to see Seattle stiffing up the run defense and taking their chances with Brees giving the wind conditions. If you watched MNF you could tell the wind had something to say about deep passes. I must have seen 5-6 off target. If we are able to connect on some of those then they are going to be in trouble. Same goes for them, I see us playing the same style D and whoever makes those throws will likely win the game. I'll take Brees and co. in that situation.

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The New England game had winds over 20 MPH.

Weather sites show the winds in Seattle being between 3 and 6 MPH over the next 10 days. So that does not appear to be a factor in this game. Rainy conditions might be something to consider, although it would only be drizzling.