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Beware the 12th man, cuz he might be an undercover police officer dressed as a Seapigeons fan. (sad that it has to come to this).

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Originally Posted by 12th fan (Post 554282)

We see this alot but the reality is the 12th man saying has been used by many organizations over the years it wasn't until Texas seen they could both profit from it as well as get recognition that they decided to even trademark the saying.

The Seahawks retired the number 12 in 1984 to honor fans who made the old Kingdome one of the noisiest stadiums in football. An official registration of the mark was filed by Texas A&M (U.S. Reg. No. 1948306) in December 1989 and it wasn't until super bowl XL in 2005 that hosted the Seahawks and Steelers that Texas decided to file a lawsuit.

You miss the point entirely and couldn't be any more wrong. Yes, the term "12th man" has been used loosely to describe a loud home crowd, but some are steeped with history & tradition, particularly at A&M. Seattle's attempt to infringe on this tradition in order to build some kind of history/tradition of their own was merely called out by A&M. The fact Seattle agreed to license the phrase from A&M and admit A&M ownership of the phrase in an out of court settlement speaks volumes as to the Seahawk franchise's culpability in this matter. The time of any filings and the opinion that A&M's actions were spurred by profits have no merit.

The "12th man" tradition is something that was grown from great adversity, honor and respect at programs like A&M. You guys paid for that honor/tradition like you were shopping at a Walmart and treat it as a celebration of a loud, ill-mannered fan base that needs it's own local police force on hand at home games to ensure they maintain the most basic of civilities ... just sayin', who respects that kind of stuff? ;) ... gotta' side with Texas A&M on this one.

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The tradition of the Twelfth Man was born on the second of January 1922, when an underdog Aggie team was playing Centre College, then the nation's top ranked team. As the hard fought game wore on, and the Aggies dug deeply into their limited reserves, Coach Dana X. Bible remembered a squad man who was not in uniform. He had been up in the press box helping reporters identify players. His name was E. King Gill, and was a former football player who was only playing basketball. Gill was called from the stands, suited up, and stood ready throughout the rest of the game, which A&M finally won 22-14. When the game ended, E. King Gill was the only man left standing on the sidelines for the Aggies. Gill later said, "I wish I could say that I went in and ran for the winning touchdown, but I did not. I simply stood by in case my team needed me."

This gesture was more than enough for the Aggie Team. Although Gill did not play in the game, he had accepted the call to help his team. He came to be thought of as the Twelfth Man because he stood ready for duty in the event that the eleven men on the gridiron needed assistance. That spirit of readiness for service, desire to support, and enthusiasm helped kindle a flame of devotion among the entire student body; a spirit that has grown vigorously throughout the years. The entire student body at A&M is the Twelfth Man, and they stand during the entire game to show their support. The 12th Man is always in the stands waiting to be called upon if they are needed ... read more: Aggie Traditions - Twelfth Man

http://aggietraditions.tamu.edu/images/12thmanstand.jpg

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 554250)

A nickname you have earned through tradition is one that makes a statement. It's an honor bestowed my opponents.
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Seattle paying a licensing fee ($100,000 +7,500/year) to A&M for pseudo street-cred is pretty pathetic.

Seems kinda cheap.... Maybe they should renegotiate.

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i have been to that stadium. the fans are hungry. fans in new orleans have lost a bit of their edge since the super bowl. a bit

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 554300)

Seems kinda cheap.... Maybe they should renegotiate.

they can't pay any more than that- PED's are expensive

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First, it's Texas A & M, not Texas. Big difference.
More history/fact errors:
A & M started using the term 50 years before anyone in the northwest ever knew who Efren Herrera was.
A & M has a statue of the first '12th man'. It was erected in 1980, 4 years before Seattle retired #12. Student FANS paid for it.
A & M asked the Seahawks, as well as 3 other teams to stop marketing "The 12th Man" slogan. Fifteen years after it was licensed, Seattle decided to start paying for it
Now, licensing and patenting are done on proprietary or exclusive items or ideas. If Seattle 'owns' the phrase "12th Man", why would it be licensed to someone else? Or licensed at all?

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Originally Posted by 12th fan (Post 554438)

Ask a few people who the 12th man is. You know the answer you will get.

But we dont care enouph about it. Your fans are so arrogant, like you havent been the the the bottom of the NFL for years. We really dont care about your culture that much.
You had your shot as fans in the playoffs in 2010. Your fans actied like juvenile morons. Disrespected our fans in your stadium, because you clearly suck as NFL fans. So we really dont care.... Hope thats very clear.

You already proved what your really like in person. Petty, fake, no football knowlege, typical big mouths, and embarasing to the sport.
We're just going to hope our boys kick your ass , and not deal with your stupid fans at all.
If thats ok.