dueceloose

January feels like a long ways away after this one.

RailBoss

The Superbowl is in Rutherford NJ probably freezing and snow.

AlaskaSaints

We ran Ingram when we needed more than three yards.

End of story.

Alaska

Halo

ALL SEASON LONG Pierre Thomas has been our starter along with Sproles.
Ingram has/is barely coming into his own as a runningback on this team.

So why run Ingram? We later start running PT and he starts to roll for some yards, but it's too late to keep running. AND where was Sproles in the entire 1st half?? Seriously, even if he was contained we didn't even run the kid first part of the game and he's our top receiver?????

There are so many head scratching moments in this game for the Saints I almost felt we threw the game.

WAIT, there's more...... 3 and 13 and Rob Ryan calls the..... wait for it..... PREVENT DEFENSE!!! A small screen rolled off 15 yards. My jaw dropped and hit the ground.

WHODATINCA

All of the above, except hoping Seattle gets bumped from the playoffs. That is a bridge too far for me to hope. We need to get the Seattle-in-Seattle monkey off our back. We did it with Chicago. We can do it with Seattle.

Azz-whippin' at CLink!!!

Oh, and the spying claim is lame.

onebyone

They must've be spying, what folks say when they can't believe how much they got beat down.

It's also known as Houston-itis.

SloMotion

Oh ... I thought this was an Antonio Smith/Houston thread (like anyone needs to cheat to beat Houston this year, eh?) ... no conspiracies ... for those who don't know what it feels like (and I'm sure most here do), we just got punched in the mouth fellas, that's all there is to it ... it'll happen now and again, we live to fight another day, .

Mr.Riaton

Seattle is a better team than we are. Its no fun admitting it. Its not like we are having a dominant season and just happened to have a bad game. Truth is, we've struggled alot this year on offense,and even though we have a good defense, everybody knows that our offense is our bread and butter. It seems as is if the offense started its downfall after Brees big contract deal.

Mardigras9

Not me, rather not go back there unless we have too.

SaintsBro

They obviously weren't tapping our signals . But PED's? Now THAT is something that needs to be looked into by somebody. Not making excuses for the loss, but if you want to talk about someone being "innocent until proven guilty," they've already been proven guilty, more than once.

More Seahawks have been suspended for violating the league's substance abuse policy than ANY OTHER TEAM in the same time span. Heck, more players in their defensive secondary position group have been suspended in the last few months, than in the whole Saints team in the last five years. And we've had a few!

The Sherman suspension was overturned on a "technicality" -- that was basically just good trial defense lawyer type stuff, not any kind of real victory or vindication. He tested positive. For SOMETHING. And got off.

Look, I am old enough to remember the original era of steroids in the NFL, when guys were really jacked, the old Oakland Raiders, Lyle Alzado, Pittsburgh Steeler teams, etc. And using the ole eyeball test, I gotta say it, THIS -- looks an awful lot like -- THAT.... Players pounding their fists madly on their own helmets? Yelling so hard that spittle comes flying out their mouths? Guys throwing punches at opponents while walking back to the huddle, or blindside plowing into receivers in the end zone who aren't even near the play? Give me a freaking break.

Last night I came across this interesting quote from Jim Harbaugh, who plays them twice a year, and probably knows a thing or two. He makes an interesting point:
I'm not making excuses for the loss last night. But I think anybody with an adult brain needs to take a second look at what is going on in Seattle, and go HMMMMM.

They're not always saying what these guys are getting busted for. It's the players or the agents for the players who are saying it was Adderall, marijuana, this or that. No one knows what is really going on. And for Harbaugh to say that, to phrase it the carefully vague way he did -- to say that no one knows what is really going on, without actually saying that no one knows what is really going on -- well that tells me something.

Now why are the Seahawks the ONLY team in the league, who has their running back who goes into Incredible Hulk "Beast Mode" when he eats his "Skittles." Now IDK about you, but to me it sounds kinda like a locker room joke for something else -- "hey man, did you take your "Skittles" this week? Yeah, I got this hurt leg, I'm gonna have to see the trainer, get me some Skittles" etc. Yeah it's a joke, the kind of joke that spreads from one player, around the locker room and out into the fan base, but after a while of hearing it, and seeing all these suspensions pile up, it's just TOO weird to completely gloss over it. Can you name any other NFL team or player that has that metaphor, of popping something in your mouth or eating something, to get your extra strength? Seriously, THAT'S the running joke, on this SAME team, with all the suspicious PED suspensions? I think it's funny. Most peculiar.

Again, I'm NOT blaming it for the loss last night, but look at the general history of this stuff. Look at the league history. Steroids were rampant in the 1970s, then cracked down on them in the 1980s, then they flared up again in the early 2000s, Shawn Merriman in 2005-2006, then died down again.

Seems like PED's and steroids and other speed-like substances are about DUE for a flare up again, and we have a Seattle team full of "selfish" atheletes who seem to get popped for PED's and enhancers and unnamed substances at an alarmingly high rate.

So if you really want to talk Spygate #2, no one knows whether we will ever know the full story behind all these suspensions or what is really going on in the Seattle locker room. But I expect if they keep winning, guys will leave the team and we will start to hear more about it. It would not surprise me if this turns out to be a Spygate #2 eventually someday. Would not be surprised at all.