Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 557844)

You do realize, that this kind of second guessing is especially unimportant, right?

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 557845)

Would not have been 1st and 5. Would've been 1st and 10.

I'd rather have a 2nd and 3 than a 1st and 10.

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 557861)

2nd and 3 is still second down. If it were 2nd and 1 then you probably should take the play. But by taking the down we end up losing a yard on the next play and have 3rd and 4 instead of second 2nd and 11. the extra down is a much bigger deal than the yardage. Essentially he traded a down for two yards. That's a bad deal.

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 557862)

If you had a 1st and 10, and then got 7 yards on that first down play to make it 2nd down and 3, you would be pretty happy with that result, no?

The fact that we lost yardage on the 2nd down and 3 attempt doesn't make it the wrong decision.

(Don't get me wrong, I would've taken the penalty yardage too. In fact I was screaming at the TV. I'm just saying, once I settled down and thought about it, I can see why he made the choice he did).

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 557845)

Would not have been 1st and 5. Would've been 1st and 10.

I'd rather have a 2nd and 3 than a 1st and 10.

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 557834)

I was totally perplexed when he declined that penalty. That should have been immediately accepted without any second thought. The fact that he actually stopped to think about it and STILL declined it just blew my mind. Also when we had first and goal at the 1 and passed twice, I thought was a greedy attempt to add to passing stats instead of just worrying about getting the score. It could have worked, but a quick handoff is much more high percentage and far less risky.