Sean Payton Brain Fart

FeelTheBrees · 12-08-2013, 11:41 PM

...when he chose to decline the defensive holding penalty for a 2nd and 3 instead of 1st and 5, which resulted in a punt. I also noticed a few other uncharacteristic miscues. We chose to kick it deep to Ginn with 15 seconds left in the half (instead of squib kick) when he had almost taken one to the house just one quarter earlier. Drew chose to let the clock wind all the way from 60 seconds to 30 seconds in the redzone when we only had 1 timeout. I forget what happened (sack maybe?) but we had to use the timeout with around 10 seconds left. We scored a TD anyway but could have easily been held to a FG or no points at all without the timeout and the 30 seconds wasted.

This was obviously a great win, but things like this could decide a close game.

AlaskaSaints · 12-08-2013, 11:43 PM

A "teaching" moment.

Or, a "learning" moment.

Alaska

|Mitch| · 12-08-2013, 11:47 PM

I don't think the options on the defensive holding were explained properly, he was seen discussing with the refs after the fact...

burningmetal · 12-08-2013, 11:47 PM

I was totally perplexed when he declined that penalty. That should have been immediately accepted without any second thought. The fact that he actually stopped to think about it and STILL declined it just blew my mind. Also when we had first and goal at the 1 and passed twice, I thought was a greedy attempt to add to passing stats instead of just worrying about getting the score. It could have worked, but a quick handoff is much more high percentage and far less risky.

blackangold · 12-09-2013, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I was totally perplexed when he declined that penalty. That should have been immediately accepted without any second thought. The fact that he actually stopped to think about it and STILL declined it just blew my mind. Also when we had first and goal at the 1 and passed twice, I thought was a greedy attempt to add to passing stats instead of just worrying about getting the score. It could have worked, but a quick handoff is much more high percentage and far less risky.

Nothing wrong with passing twice after being stuffed on the run play. You got a 6'5 wr and a 6'7 TE; tossing the ball on fade routes is a good call against the 1st ranked run D.

burningmetal · 12-09-2013, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Nothing wrong with passing twice after being stuffed on the run play. You got a 6'5 wr and a 6'7 TE; tossing the ball on fade routes is a good call against the 1st ranked run D.

A quarterback sneak in what you do in that situation. There is very little room for the receivers to run routes that close, and often trying to force a pass there ends in disaster. For us, it ended in 3 points instead of 6. It's a non issue now, but it was not high percentage play-calling. The fade rarely works aswell.

Beastmode · 12-08-2013, 11:49 PM

Big deal. He fixed everything from last week. He does over think things at times but I'd rather have that than not thinking enough.

Halo · 12-08-2013, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Big deal. He fixed everything from last week. He does over think things at times but I'd rather have that than not thinking enough.

We could be Craplanta

OH THE HORROR!!!!!

SaintsBro · 12-08-2013, 11:53 PM

Memo to Benson, fire Payton, hire "FeelTheBrees" as soon as possible.

SMH

critique + "we scored a touchdown anyway"

You do realize, that this kind of second guessing is especially unimportant, right?

FeelTheBrees · 12-09-2013, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

You do realize, that this kind of second guessing is especially unimportant, right?

You do realize that EVERYTHING we do on this forum is especially unimportant? You know, because none of us actually have the power (nor the knowledge or experience) to affect any aspect of the ability of the New Orleans Saints to win football games. However, we discuss things on this forum for entertainment purposes...not because anything we say actually matters.

Take it easy, BRO.

12-08-2013, 11:41 PM	#1
FeelTheBrees Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 60	Sean Payton Brain Fart ...when he chose to decline the defensive holding penalty for a 2nd and 3 instead of 1st and 5, which resulted in a punt. I also noticed a few other uncharacteristic miscues. We chose to kick it deep to Ginn with 15 seconds left in the half (instead of squib kick) when he had almost taken one to the house just one quarter earlier. Drew chose to let the clock wind all the way from 60 seconds to 30 seconds in the redzone when we only had 1 timeout. I forget what happened (sack maybe?) but we had to use the timeout with around 10 seconds left. We scored a TD anyway but could have easily been held to a FG or no points at all without the timeout and the 30 seconds wasted. This was obviously a great win, but things like this could decide a close game. Halo, AlaskaSaints and WHODATINCA like this.
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12-08-2013, 11:43 PM	#2
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart A "teaching" moment. Or, a "learning" moment. Alaska Halo likes this.

12-08-2013, 11:47 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart I don't think the options on the defensive holding were explained properly, he was seen discussing with the refs after the fact... Euphoria and WhoDat2301 like this.

12-08-2013, 11:47 PM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart I was totally perplexed when he declined that penalty. That should have been immediately accepted without any second thought. The fact that he actually stopped to think about it and STILL declined it just blew my mind. Also when we had first and goal at the 1 and passed twice, I thought was a greedy attempt to add to passing stats instead of just worrying about getting the score. It could have worked, but a quick handoff is much more high percentage and far less risky. exiled likes this.

12-09-2013, 06:40 AM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart Originally Posted by burningmetal I was totally perplexed when he declined that penalty. That should have been immediately accepted without any second thought. The fact that he actually stopped to think about it and STILL declined it just blew my mind. Also when we had first and goal at the 1 and passed twice, I thought was a greedy attempt to add to passing stats instead of just worrying about getting the score. It could have worked, but a quick handoff is much more high percentage and far less risky. Nothing wrong with passing twice after being stuffed on the run play. You got a 6'5 wr and a 6'7 TE; tossing the ball on fade routes is a good call against the 1st ranked run D. stickman likes this.

12-09-2013, 10:45 PM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart Originally Posted by blackangold Nothing wrong with passing twice after being stuffed on the run play. You got a 6'5 wr and a 6'7 TE; tossing the ball on fade routes is a good call against the 1st ranked run D. A quarterback sneak in what you do in that situation. There is very little room for the receivers to run routes that close, and often trying to force a pass there ends in disaster. For us, it ended in 3 points instead of 6. It's a non issue now, but it was not high percentage play-calling. The fade rarely works aswell. ScottF likes this.

12-08-2013, 11:49 PM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart Big deal. He fixed everything from last week. He does over think things at times but I'd rather have that than not thinking enough. Halo and foreverfan like this.
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12-08-2013, 11:56 PM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart Originally Posted by Beastmode Big deal. He fixed everything from last week. He does over think things at times but I'd rather have that than not thinking enough. We could be Craplanta OH THE HORROR!!!!!

12-08-2013, 11:53 PM	#9
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart Memo to Benson, fire Payton, hire "FeelTheBrees" as soon as possible. SMH critique + "we scored a touchdown anyway" You do realize, that this kind of second guessing is especially unimportant, right? Euphoria likes this.

12-09-2013, 12:15 AM	#10
FeelTheBrees Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 60	Re: Sean Payton Brain Fart Originally Posted by SaintsBro You do realize, that this kind of second guessing is especially unimportant, right? You do realize that EVERYTHING we do on this forum is especially unimportant? You know, because none of us actually have the power (nor the knowledge or experience) to affect any aspect of the ability of the New Orleans Saints to win football games. However, we discuss things on this forum for entertainment purposes...not because anything we say actually matters. Take it easy, BRO. blackangold likes this.
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