There is losing then there is losing

Beastmode · 12-15-2013, 10:19 PM

If you look at teams like the Pats, Broncos, Seattle, Bengals(except tonight) they lose games but not like us. Nobody has really woodshedded any of them this season.

This is a very uncommon thing is what I'm getting at. To have a team with 10 wins getting completely beat down then completely beat down other teams is really hard to wrap my head around. The inconsistency of things from game to game is off the chart.

One week the OL looks like they were starring at blades of grass then then they hold off one of the best defenses. I understand there are a lot of elements to it but the drop off is kinda all of a sudden, boom. Same with the offense. Same with kicking, same with all of it. There really is no middle ground. It's either great or nothing.

Maybe we are just in some funk, it's really only 4 games I'm talking about where this roller coaster stuff happened but still, this is not the case with other playoff teams, it's just not. They lose by and large with a valiant effort. We get destroyed.

WhoDat!656 · 12-15-2013, 10:31 PM

I almost wish at halftime Payton had called Fisher and said the Saints are playing with their heads up their a$$es and he isn't going to risk injuring his players and conceded the game.

|Mitch| · 12-15-2013, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

If you look at teams like the Pats, Broncos, Seattle, Bengals(except tonight) they lose games but not like us. Nobody has really woodshedded any of them this season.

I'm sorry, but a loss is a loss in my book.

Denver, New England, and the Bengals have or are getting beat by non-playoff teams this week.

WhoDat!656 · 12-15-2013, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I'm sorry, but a loss is a loss in my book.

Denver, New England, and the Bengals have or are getting beat by non-playoff teams this week.

Not true; Chargers, Miami and Pittsburg are all still eligible for the playoffs

|Mitch| · 12-15-2013, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Not true; Chargers, Miami and Pittsburg are all still eligible for the playoffs

Maybe the Dolphins at 8-6, but the Steelers and Chargers hopes are very slim. What's it matter though, we can all agree that Denver, New England, Cincinnati have the more talented teams and shouldn't have lost

WHODATINCA · 12-15-2013, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

If you look at teams like the Pats, Broncos, Seattle, Bengals(except tonight) they lose games but not like us. Nobody has really woodshedded any of them this season.

This is a very uncommon thing is what I'm getting at. To have a team with 10 wins getting completely beat down then completely beat down other teams is really hard to wrap my head around. The inconsistency of things from game to game is off the chart.

One week the OL looks like they were starring at blades of grass then then they hold off one of the best defenses. I understand there are a lot of elements to it but the drop off is kinda all of a sudden, boom. Same with the offense. Same with kicking, same with all of it. There really is no middle ground. It's either great or nothing.

Maybe we are just in some funk, it's really only 4 games I'm talking about where this roller coaster stuff happened but still, this is not the case with other playoff teams, it's just not. They lose by and large with a valiant effort. We get destroyed.

This loss is worth mentioning, since we are talking about losing to a 5-8 team. This to me is about consistency and mental toughness. In 2009 and 2011, we never thought we weren't in it -- even when were down. We do not seem to have the mental toughness, play-design cunning or Sean Payton risk-reward mindset this year.

bobdog86 · 12-16-2013, 12:20 AM

If you can't execute in week 14, with all the scenarios and opportunities that were on the table, then you have some issues. The players were flat offensively, the defense struggled and their were some questionable play calls. The loss IS worth mentioning…..we needed to win…period.

jnormand · 12-16-2013, 12:35 AM

I agree its worth mentioning. Am I freaked out and thinking we won't get into the playoffs? No. But still I'm baffled as well by us getting our ass handed to us by mediocre teams. It's almost as if there was no practice or tape review on them. Like our team spent the week dicking around.

WHODATINCA · 12-16-2013, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I agree its worth mentioning. Am I freaked out and thinking we won't get into the playoffs? No. But still I'm baffled as well by us getting our ass handed to us by mediocre teams. It's almost as if there was no practice or tape review on them. Like our team spent the week dicking around.

^^^Almost like, what he said.

It seems mental to me. I mean did we scare ourselves talking about the past? I just don't see how anything about being on the road in a fairly quiet dome -- hurt us.

Crusader · 12-16-2013, 03:12 AM

I agree with you guys. I'm not pissed that we lost, because in all fairness you gonna loose a couple every season, but I'm pissed about the WAY we lost. No protection, no running game, Brees had his head stuffed up his arse, IDIOT KICKER!, nobody could tackle to save a life, getting pushed back, no return game and no pressure. Embarrassing!

12-15-2013, 10:19 PM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	There is losing then there is losing If you look at teams like the Pats, Broncos, Seattle, Bengals(except tonight) they lose games but not like us. Nobody has really woodshedded any of them this season. This is a very uncommon thing is what I'm getting at. To have a team with 10 wins getting completely beat down then completely beat down other teams is really hard to wrap my head around. The inconsistency of things from game to game is off the chart. One week the OL looks like they were starring at blades of grass then then they hold off one of the best defenses. I understand there are a lot of elements to it but the drop off is kinda all of a sudden, boom. Same with the offense. Same with kicking, same with all of it. There really is no middle ground. It's either great or nothing. Maybe we are just in some funk, it's really only 4 games I'm talking about where this roller coaster stuff happened but still, this is not the case with other playoff teams, it's just not. They lose by and large with a valiant effort. We get destroyed. Rugby Saint II, SaintsBro and halloween 65 like this.
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12-15-2013, 10:31 PM	#2
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: There is losing then there is losing I almost wish at halftime Payton had called Fisher and said the Saints are playing with their heads up their a$$es and he isn't going to risk injuring his players and conceded the game.

12-15-2013, 10:38 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: There is losing then there is losing Originally Posted by Beastmode If you look at teams like the Pats, Broncos, Seattle, Bengals(except tonight) they lose games but not like us. Nobody has really woodshedded any of them this season. I'm sorry, but a loss is a loss in my book. Denver, New England, and the Bengals have or are getting beat by non-playoff teams this week.

12-15-2013, 10:41 PM	#4
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: There is losing then there is losing Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I'm sorry, but a loss is a loss in my book. Denver, New England, and the Bengals have or are getting beat by non-playoff teams this week. Not true; Chargers, Miami and Pittsburg are all still eligible for the playoffs

12-15-2013, 10:45 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: There is losing then there is losing Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Not true; Chargers, Miami and Pittsburg are all still eligible for the playoffs Maybe the Dolphins at 8-6, but the Steelers and Chargers hopes are very slim. What's it matter though, we can all agree that Denver, New England, Cincinnati have the more talented teams and shouldn't have lost

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WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: There is losing then there is losing Originally Posted by Beastmode If you look at teams like the Pats, Broncos, Seattle, Bengals(except tonight) they lose games but not like us. Nobody has really woodshedded any of them this season. This is a very uncommon thing is what I'm getting at. To have a team with 10 wins getting completely beat down then completely beat down other teams is really hard to wrap my head around. The inconsistency of things from game to game is off the chart. One week the OL looks like they were starring at blades of grass then then they hold off one of the best defenses. I understand there are a lot of elements to it but the drop off is kinda all of a sudden, boom. Same with the offense. Same with kicking, same with all of it. There really is no middle ground. It's either great or nothing. Maybe we are just in some funk, it's really only 4 games I'm talking about where this roller coaster stuff happened but still, this is not the case with other playoff teams, it's just not. They lose by and large with a valiant effort. We get destroyed. This loss is worth mentioning, since we are talking about losing to a 5-8 team. This to me is about consistency and mental toughness. In 2009 and 2011, we never thought we weren't in it -- even when were down. We do not seem to have the mental toughness, play-design cunning or Sean Payton risk-reward mindset this year. Boutte likes this.

12-16-2013, 12:20 AM	#7
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,406	Re: There is losing then there is losing If you can't execute in week 14, with all the scenarios and opportunities that were on the table, then you have some issues. The players were flat offensively, the defense struggled and their were some questionable play calls. The loss IS worth mentioning…..we needed to win…period. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-16-2013, 12:35 AM	#8
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: There is losing then there is losing I agree its worth mentioning. Am I freaked out and thinking we won't get into the playoffs? No. But still I'm baffled as well by us getting our ass handed to us by mediocre teams. It's almost as if there was no practice or tape review on them. Like our team spent the week dicking around.

12-16-2013, 12:41 AM	#9
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: There is losing then there is losing Originally Posted by jnormand I agree its worth mentioning. Am I freaked out and thinking we won't get into the playoffs? No. But still I'm baffled as well by us getting our ass handed to us by mediocre teams. It's almost as if there was no practice or tape review on them. Like our team spent the week dicking around. ^^^Almost like, what he said. It seems mental to me. I mean did we scare ourselves talking about the past? I just don't see how anything about being on the road in a fairly quiet dome -- hurt us. Danno likes this.

12-16-2013, 03:12 AM	#10
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: There is losing then there is losing I agree with you guys. I'm not pissed that we lost, because in all fairness you gonna loose a couple every season, but I'm pissed about the WAY we lost. No protection, no running game, Brees had his head stuffed up his arse, IDIOT KICKER!, nobody could tackle to save a life, getting pushed back, no return game and no pressure. Embarrassing! bobdog86 and onebyone like this.

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