2014 NFL Draft

|Mitch| · 12-23-2013, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by nycsaintfan

Its way too early to be thinking about this.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We've covered this ground - it's never too early, that's what these forums are about...

That's what being a fan is all about; you can look past games, to next years draft as early as you want, you could start contemplating freshmen college players if you really want.

It's not our job to take the planning serious, that's what they pay the players/staff millions for

I'm still seeing O-Line/Safety as our main priorities right now

jeanpierre · 12-23-2013, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

That's what being a fan is all about; you can look past games, to next years draft as early as you want, you could start contemplating freshmen college players if you really want.

It's not our job to take the planning serious, that's what they pay the players/staff millions for

I'm still seeing O-Line/Safety as our main priorities right now

Yeah, I know Armstead had a bad opening game, but he'll get some more games under his belt and then Payton & Company will have a better assessment going into the draft as to what needs they may have on the outside of the line...

There were a few plays I felt he easily handle the comp and then of course the inexperience would show on plays where Brees held the ball a little longer and Armstead got out maneuvered by the more experienced defensive end...

We've reached a detente here at Black & Gold of two camps over Harper, who's probably the most polarizing player among fans here...

But it's obvious that with the coverage breakdown by Harper on two consecutive plays on the last series, book was made to clearly target him...

Even worse was the display of missed tackles by Jenkins, especially on the second Panthers' touchdown pass, that a complimentary safety to Vacarro is really needed as well...

Have heard critics of talking about the draft during the season as a failure as a fan - my response is that always trying to discuss ways for a team to improve is no better way to demonstrate passion for a team...

lsutigerfan · 12-24-2013, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

That's what being a fan is all about; you can look past games, to next years draft as early as you want, you could start contemplating freshmen college players if you really want.

It's not our job to take the planning serious, that's what they pay the players/staff millions for

I'm still seeing O-Line/Safety as our main priorities right now

Also a playmaking LB who can cover is really needed. Love Kyle Van Noy.

Cruize · 12-24-2013, 09:49 AM

Playmaker on defense. OLB stands out. A legit NFL center. Harper gone at safety is addition by subtraction. I would add a complete TE to the mix as well. Graham is a WR in a TE's body.

alleycat_126 · 01-02-2014, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Playmaker on defense. OLB stands out. A legit NFL center. Harper gone at safety is addition by subtraction. I would add a complete TE to the mix as well. Graham is a WR in a TE's body.

I was with you till you said all world TE.... People forget how much of a work in progress Graham still is because of the number's he putting up. This WR vs TE is bull the media is using drive Jimmy's asking price up. Mikey is smart if he keeps Jimmy's head on straight. If your not gonna Franchise him you give him Gronk's deal plus a few dollars more and be done with it... Plus if your unsatisfied with Watson's play( which im not) there are gonna be some backup Tight end steals in FA which won't cost you much... Jermichael Finley for example....

As for everything else.... Yes OLB does stand out... We need one. A rangy ball-hawking Free Safety as well... I think if we take the same approach we did last season and hit with another free agent CB...( Talib, Grimes ) Take a free safety from this draft this D can be something special.... not just a comeback story!!!

SaintLeonard · 12-24-2013, 09:50 AM

I have not hid the fact that I'm a pretty big Armstead fan, but I don't think he had a bad opening game all things considered. He got beat badly 2 or 3 times, but that is to be expected from a rookie LT making his first start. Especially when said rookie LT is facing Greg Hardy. (who is a premier pass-rusher in this league)

Aside from those 2 or 3 mishaps, he played really well. He should only get better, too. I guess I would not be mad if we went LT in the first, but I think we would also be just fine if we stuck with Armstead.

jeanpierre · 12-24-2013, 12:11 PM

Wish we could CLONE Kiko Alsonso AND Luke Kuechly in our new 34 defense we've yet to fully implement because Curtis Lofton is soooo slow that he makes even Harper look like a defensive back until a Tackle Eligible runs past him...

SaintLeonard · 12-24-2013, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wish we could CLONE Kiko Alsonso AND Luke Kuechly in our new 34 defense we've yet to fully implement because Curtis Lofton is soooo slow that he makes even Harper look like a defensive back until a Tackle Eligible runs past him...

Shayne Skov out of Stanford would be awesome. He plays in a 3-4 too, so he fits our future plans.

K Major · 12-24-2013, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wish we could CLONE Kiko Alsonso AND Luke Kuechly in our new 34 defense we've yet to fully implement because Curtis Lofton is soooo slow that he makes even Harper look like a defensive back until a Tackle Eligible runs past him...

This could be a pipe dream but how about the ILB CJ Mosely kid from Bama? Saw him a lot this year and he has good speed/quickness & instincts. Always had a nose for the ball & is a sound tackler.

Any thoughts?

SaintLeonard · 12-24-2013, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

This could be a pipe dream but how about the ILB CJ Mosely kid from Bama? Saw him a lot this year and he has good speed/quickness & instincts. Always had a nose for the ball & is a sound tackler.

Any thoughts?

Mosley is an absolute monster and I would be giddy if we landed him, but I would be real surprised if he is still available by the time our pick rolls around. I think Mosley is projected to go somewhere in the top 15.

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Outside Linebacker	21	23.33%
Tackle (Offense)	48	53.33%
Safety	12	13.33%
Inside Linebacker	17	18.89%
Center	26	28.89%
Cornerback	29	32.22%
Wide Receiver	32	35.56%
Guard	9	10.00%
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12-23-2013, 11:24 PM	#1
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by nycsaintfan Its way too early to be thinking about this. Originally Posted by jeanpierre We've covered this ground - it's never too early, that's what these forums are about... That's what being a fan is all about; you can look past games, to next years draft as early as you want, you could start contemplating freshmen college players if you really want. It's not our job to take the planning serious, that's what they pay the players/staff millions for I'm still seeing O-Line/Safety as our main priorities right now Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-23-2013, 11:50 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| That's what being a fan is all about; you can look past games, to next years draft as early as you want, you could start contemplating freshmen college players if you really want. It's not our job to take the planning serious, that's what they pay the players/staff millions for I'm still seeing O-Line/Safety as our main priorities right now Yeah, I know Armstead had a bad opening game, but he'll get some more games under his belt and then Payton & Company will have a better assessment going into the draft as to what needs they may have on the outside of the line... There were a few plays I felt he easily handle the comp and then of course the inexperience would show on plays where Brees held the ball a little longer and Armstead got out maneuvered by the more experienced defensive end... We've reached a detente here at Black & Gold of two camps over Harper, who's probably the most polarizing player among fans here... But it's obvious that with the coverage breakdown by Harper on two consecutive plays on the last series, book was made to clearly target him... Even worse was the display of missed tackles by Jenkins, especially on the second Panthers' touchdown pass, that a complimentary safety to Vacarro is really needed as well... Have heard critics of talking about the draft during the season as a failure as a fan - my response is that always trying to discuss ways for a team to improve is no better way to demonstrate passion for a team...
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12-24-2013, 09:24 AM	#3
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| That's what being a fan is all about; you can look past games, to next years draft as early as you want, you could start contemplating freshmen college players if you really want. It's not our job to take the planning serious, that's what they pay the players/staff millions for I'm still seeing O-Line/Safety as our main priorities right now Also a playmaking LB who can cover is really needed. Love Kyle Van Noy. Danno likes this.

12-24-2013, 09:49 AM	#4
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Playmaker on defense. OLB stands out. A legit NFL center. Harper gone at safety is addition by subtraction. I would add a complete TE to the mix as well. Graham is a WR in a TE's body.
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01-02-2014, 02:24 AM	#5
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by Cruize Playmaker on defense. OLB stands out. A legit NFL center. Harper gone at safety is addition by subtraction. I would add a complete TE to the mix as well. Graham is a WR in a TE's body. I was with you till you said all world TE.... People forget how much of a work in progress Graham still is because of the number's he putting up. This WR vs TE is bull the media is using drive Jimmy's asking price up. Mikey is smart if he keeps Jimmy's head on straight. If your not gonna Franchise him you give him Gronk's deal plus a few dollars more and be done with it... Plus if your unsatisfied with Watson's play( which im not) there are gonna be some backup Tight end steals in FA which won't cost you much... Jermichael Finley for example.... As for everything else.... Yes OLB does stand out... We need one. A rangy ball-hawking Free Safety as well... I think if we take the same approach we did last season and hit with another free agent CB...( Talib, Grimes ) Take a free safety from this draft this D can be something special.... not just a comeback story!!! hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.
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12-24-2013, 09:50 AM	#6
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: 2014 NFL Draft I have not hid the fact that I'm a pretty big Armstead fan, but I don't think he had a bad opening game all things considered. He got beat badly 2 or 3 times, but that is to be expected from a rookie LT making his first start. Especially when said rookie LT is facing Greg Hardy. (who is a premier pass-rusher in this league) Aside from those 2 or 3 mishaps, he played really well. He should only get better, too. I guess I would not be mad if we went LT in the first, but I think we would also be just fine if we stuck with Armstead.

12-24-2013, 12:11 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Wish we could CLONE Kiko Alsonso AND Luke Kuechly in our new 34 defense we've yet to fully implement because Curtis Lofton is soooo slow that he makes even Harper look like a defensive back until a Tackle Eligible runs past him...

12-24-2013, 12:56 PM	#8
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Wish we could CLONE Kiko Alsonso AND Luke Kuechly in our new 34 defense we've yet to fully implement because Curtis Lofton is soooo slow that he makes even Harper look like a defensive back until a Tackle Eligible runs past him... Shayne Skov out of Stanford would be awesome. He plays in a 3-4 too, so he fits our future plans.

12-24-2013, 01:53 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,849 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Wish we could CLONE Kiko Alsonso AND Luke Kuechly in our new 34 defense we've yet to fully implement because Curtis Lofton is soooo slow that he makes even Harper look like a defensive back until a Tackle Eligible runs past him... This could be a pipe dream but how about the ILB CJ Mosely kid from Bama? Saw him a lot this year and he has good speed/quickness & instincts. Always had a nose for the ball & is a sound tackler. Any thoughts?

12-24-2013, 01:56 PM	#10
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by K Major This could be a pipe dream but how about the ILB CJ Mosely kid from Bama? Saw him a lot this year and he has good speed/quickness & instincts. Always had a nose for the ball & is a sound tackler. Any thoughts? Mosley is an absolute monster and I would be giddy if we landed him, but I would be real surprised if he is still available by the time our pick rolls around. I think Mosley is projected to go somewhere in the top 15. K Major likes this.

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