Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED]

12-17-2013, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Schmohams

ST needs to be revamped, start from ground zero, fire Mcmahon...

{Screeching Brakes}

Sean needs an old friend on the staff for his personal well-being and can always lend his leadership to right the ship when it comes to the kicking game...

Note: As a member of the Coach Parcells coaching tree, Sean Payton will need to follow Parcells convention and call it kicking and not special teams as they're is nothing special about those guys...

SmashMouth · 12-17-2013, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by exile

It was time. Graham is good. I really wanted Rackers though.

Kickalicious!!!

hagan714 · 12-17-2013, 11:21 PM

am i the only one that thinks coverage on special teams have been a whole lot better this year?

return game has been a bit of a disappointment and needs to addressed. a dynamic returner would be nice but i look at the blocking and i rank it pretty low. most of the tackles seem to becoming from players right up the middle of the field

kicking has been well a shot gun effect for a few years now. ever since the hip injury Heartly never was the same.

now to gut it all? i am not ready to go that far.

Halo · 12-17-2013, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The one we lost because Ingram couldn't get a yard?

No, that was 2011. In 2012, we lost to the Packers in Lambeau and Hartley missed the game winner wide left.

Beastmode · 12-17-2013, 11:32 PM

I thought he would be gone after getting suspended to be honest. He'd get into bad favor and then quasi redeem himself. He probably would have this time too if not for that 2nd miss. Can't have that this late in the season.

exile · 12-17-2013, 11:41 PM

Btw, Tulane kicker is the #1 for this upcoming draft. Could we have a Tulane PK and a Tulane QB starting next year? I kid I kid.

hagan714 · 12-17-2013, 11:44 PM

i need some tulane homers to give me the scoop on the kid

Halo · 12-18-2013, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i need some tulane homers to give me the scoop on the kid

I'll be at the R-L Carriers Bowl in the Superdome this Saturday to pull for the Greenie Weenie's. Although I'm an LSU alum, I live about 1/2 mile from Tulane and grabbed some tickets to the Bowl game against ULL.

I promise to come back with a scouting report. Unfortunately, place kicker scouting reports are about as exciting as a turd floating in a punch bowl.

Jack Vegas · 12-18-2013, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Schmohams

ST needs to be revamped, start from ground zero, fire Mcmahon and extend Moarstead's contract, get Chris Boswell or Cairo Santos, draft a fresh set of legs like Cordarrell Patterson or Tavon Austin, then look for UDFAs for studs like Gleason. We suck on special teams and it could seriously help our game if we stepped up.

Agree, something needs to be done. I think we have some good special teams players but nobody that's really dynamic. We could really use a Fred McAfee, Gleason or Roby type, somebody that is a real ace special teamer on kick and punt returns and who all the young players look up to. We don't have a single player like that right now.

Other than that, getting a decent kicker should not be too hard. McMahon's track record at this point does not look good. Those should be the big concerns on ST's right now.

lee909 · 12-18-2013, 03:34 AM

Thanks for 09 but this has been coming for a while and he cant say he hasn't been given every chance to come through a rough spell.

Onwards and upward

12-17-2013, 11:18 PM	#81
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12-17-2013, 11:18 PM	#82
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by exile It was time. Graham is good. I really wanted Rackers though. Kickalicious!!!

12-17-2013, 11:21 PM	#83
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] am i the only one that thinks coverage on special teams have been a whole lot better this year? return game has been a bit of a disappointment and needs to addressed. a dynamic returner would be nice but i look at the blocking and i rank it pretty low. most of the tackles seem to becoming from players right up the middle of the field kicking has been well a shot gun effect for a few years now. ever since the hip injury Heartly never was the same. now to gut it all? i am not ready to go that far.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

12-17-2013, 11:22 PM	#84
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,718 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The one we lost because Ingram couldn't get a yard? No, that was 2011. In 2012, we lost to the Packers in Lambeau and Hartley missed the game winner wide left. jeanpierre likes this.

12-17-2013, 11:32 PM	#85
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] I thought he would be gone after getting suspended to be honest. He'd get into bad favor and then quasi redeem himself. He probably would have this time too if not for that 2nd miss. Can't have that this late in the season.
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12-17-2013, 11:41 PM	#86
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12-17-2013, 11:44 PM	#87
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] i need some tulane homers to give me the scoop on the kid

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,718 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by hagan714 i need some tulane homers to give me the scoop on the kid I'll be at the R-L Carriers Bowl in the Superdome this Saturday to pull for the Greenie Weenie's. Although I'm an LSU alum, I live about 1/2 mile from Tulane and grabbed some tickets to the Bowl game against ULL. I promise to come back with a scouting report. Unfortunately, place kicker scouting reports are about as exciting as a turd floating in a punch bowl.

12-18-2013, 02:20 AM	#89
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by Schmohams ST needs to be revamped, start from ground zero, fire Mcmahon and extend Moarstead's contract, get Chris Boswell or Cairo Santos, draft a fresh set of legs like Cordarrell Patterson or Tavon Austin, then look for UDFAs for studs like Gleason. We suck on special teams and it could seriously help our game if we stepped up. Agree, something needs to be done. I think we have some good special teams players but nobody that's really dynamic. We could really use a Fred McAfee, Gleason or Roby type, somebody that is a real ace special teamer on kick and punt returns and who all the young players look up to. We don't have a single player like that right now. Other than that, getting a decent kicker should not be too hard. McMahon's track record at this point does not look good. Those should be the big concerns on ST's right now.
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12-18-2013, 03:34 AM	#90
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Thanks for 09 but this has been coming for a while and he cant say he hasn't been given every chance to come through a rough spell. Onwards and upward

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