CBS Sports Article Points Out Saints 2014 Salary Cap Challenge

ScottF · 12-22-2013, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Graham is a TE, it's the only way he can be tagged. Tag him as a WR and he becomes a WR..... his records go away and we no longer have the top TE in the NFL, we have a WR with the 14th most yards.

true, but you know his snake of an agent is going to point to the percentage of times JG lined up as a WR and make a case
I think this one will be ugly, Drew Brees ugly

TheOak · 12-22-2013, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

true, but you know his snake of an agent is going to point to the percentage of times JG lined up as a WR and make a case

I think this one will be ugly, Drew Brees ugly

It's been tried before but I'm not sure to what success.

And there are the HoF implications. Jimmy Graham has a fantastic chance of getting in the Hall of Fame if his career is long enough and he continues to preform as he does as a TE. There is the old duck adage, if it's paid as a WR, played as a WR, and tagged a WR..... It ain't gettin in as a TE.

We know how he is played but this is a formal tag and will change things.

ScottF · 12-22-2013, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

It's been tried before but I'm not sure to what success.

And there are the HoF implications. Jimmy Graham has a fantastic chance of getting in the Hall of Fame if his career is long enough and he continues to preform as he does as a TE. There is the old duck adage, if it's paid as a WR, played as a WR, and tagged a WR..... It ain't gettin in as a TE.

We know how he is played but this is a formal tag and will change things.

Yes, there is some precedent, someone from St. Louis last year, and I believe some LB's that wanted to be tagged as DE's. This however, will be the biggest case.
End of the day, Jimmy is in the 4th year of a rookie contract. No one could have seen how great he would become, but bottom line, he has gotten screwed. Good business, bad HR. Let's just pay him.

TheOak · 12-22-2013, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Yes, there is some precedent, someone from St. Louis last year, and I believe some LB's that wanted to be tagged as DE's. This however, will be the biggest case.

End of the day, Jimmy is in the 4th year of a rookie contract. No one could have seen how great he would become, but bottom line, he has gotten screwed. Good business, bad HR. Let's just pay him.

Nahhh, I wouldn't say he has gotten screwed, he just out played his contract. Drew out played his initial Saints contract, and while people think a contract should change weekly based on how a player performs, it just doesn't work that way.

Players and teams want contracts because they both thrive on certain parts of a contract. The Saints get cheap TDs and Jimmy Graham gets paid when he drops passes or is hurt.

It could be fixed Beaty easily.... $x for a TD and $Y for a yard. Neither side wants that.

There is harmony and balance.... Will Smith has grossly under played his contract.

12-22-2013, 08:19 AM	#1
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: CBS Sports Article Points Out Saints 2014 Salary Cap Challenge Originally Posted by TheOak Graham is a TE, it's the only way he can be tagged. Tag him as a WR and he becomes a WR..... his records go away and we no longer have the top TE in the NFL, we have a WR with the 14th most yards. true, but you know his snake of an agent is going to point to the percentage of times JG lined up as a WR and make a case I think this one will be ugly, Drew Brees ugly

12-22-2013, 09:19 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: CBS Sports Article Points Out Saints 2014 Salary Cap Challenge Originally Posted by ScottF true, but you know his snake of an agent is going to point to the percentage of times JG lined up as a WR and make a case I think this one will be ugly, Drew Brees ugly It's been tried before but I'm not sure to what success. And there are the HoF implications. Jimmy Graham has a fantastic chance of getting in the Hall of Fame if his career is long enough and he continues to preform as he does as a TE. There is the old duck adage, if it's paid as a WR, played as a WR, and tagged a WR..... It ain't gettin in as a TE. We know how he is played but this is a formal tag and will change things.

12-22-2013, 09:48 AM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: CBS Sports Article Points Out Saints 2014 Salary Cap Challenge Originally Posted by TheOak It's been tried before but I'm not sure to what success. And there are the HoF implications. Jimmy Graham has a fantastic chance of getting in the Hall of Fame if his career is long enough and he continues to preform as he does as a TE. There is the old duck adage, if it's paid as a WR, played as a WR, and tagged a WR..... It ain't gettin in as a TE. We know how he is played but this is a formal tag and will change things. Yes, there is some precedent, someone from St. Louis last year, and I believe some LB's that wanted to be tagged as DE's. This however, will be the biggest case. End of the day, Jimmy is in the 4th year of a rookie contract. No one could have seen how great he would become, but bottom line, he has gotten screwed. Good business, bad HR. Let's just pay him.

12-22-2013, 10:01 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	CBS Sports Article Points Out Saints 2014 Salary Cap Challenge Originally Posted by ScottF Yes, there is some precedent, someone from St. Louis last year, and I believe some LB's that wanted to be tagged as DE's. This however, will be the biggest case. End of the day, Jimmy is in the 4th year of a rookie contract. No one could have seen how great he would become, but bottom line, he has gotten screwed. Good business, bad HR. Let's just pay him. Nahhh, I wouldn't say he has gotten screwed, he just out played his contract. Drew out played his initial Saints contract, and while people think a contract should change weekly based on how a player performs, it just doesn't work that way. Players and teams want contracts because they both thrive on certain parts of a contract. The Saints get cheap TDs and Jimmy Graham gets paid when he drops passes or is hurt. It could be fixed Beaty easily.... $x for a TD and $Y for a yard. Neither side wants that. There is harmony and balance.... Will Smith has grossly under played his contract.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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