Sean Payton's play calling

TheOak · 12-23-2013, 12:57 PM

Same play style that blew a FG against Carolina last night won the Saints a SB.

"Do something different"
It fails
"Why did we do something different"

When out of the box thinking works it's called brilliance; when it fails, a coaches integrity, heart, and intelligence are questioned. Nothing works all the time and some fans need to learn to take the bad with the good.

Trying not to be such a hypocrite has nothing to do with blind faith, but some need to recognize that the difference between a great coach and a bad coach is not always the outcome of a couple of risky plays.

Sean Payton is hands down the best coach this team has ever had and quite possibly will have for quite a while.

If you really do not like the QB and the coach, why are you a fan of that team? Colors? Mascot?

dizzle88 · 12-23-2013, 01:01 PM

But calling 3 consecutive runs up the gut against 9 man fronts when we needed 1 first down

How about calling 2 consecutive screens when the first lost us 6 yards and carolina made it clear they knew all of our screen looks

He called that swing pass to pierre 4 times and we didnt gain positive yardage on any of them

I just think he needs to stop the committee approach and leave people in the game, we are way too predictable

Ashley · 12-23-2013, 01:19 PM

same thing over and over. But this time we get zero results

blackangold · 12-23-2013, 01:21 PM

Payton is a great coach... just not a very good offensive coordinator; at least not the best we have available.

Mardigras9 · 12-23-2013, 01:32 PM

Unbelievable.
Payton is great offensive play calling coach. There was no reason not to try to run down the clock with runs the way the defense had been handling their offense all day. Not that role out on third down probably wouldn't have been a better plan.
But the Panthers made the plays when they needed to to win the game and you have to give Scam props for that. Close games go either way and just happens this one didn't go ours, most do.

Mardigras9 · 12-23-2013, 01:33 PM

If the on-side had backfired, he would have been fried for that one too.

TheOak · 12-23-2013, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

But calling 3 consecutive runs up the gut against 9 man fronts when we needed 1 first down

How about calling 2 consecutive screens when the first lost us 6 yards and carolina made it clear they knew all of our screen looks

He called that swing pass to pierre 4 times and we didnt gain positive yardage on any of them

I just think he needs to stop the committee approach and leave people in the game, we are way too predictable

Do you expect a failed play right after the same play failed? Not many do.

Certainly no one would run a failed play twice so the line up must be a mask for something.

Some times you hide in the open brother. Last thing they are expecting.

ikecomp · 12-23-2013, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Same play style that blew a FG against Carolina last night won the Saints a SB.

"Do something different"
It fails
"Why did we do something different"

When out of the box thinking works it's called brilliance; when it fails, a coaches integrity, heart, and intelligence are questioned. Nothing works all the time and some fans need to learn to take the bad with the good.

Trying not to be such a hypocrite has nothing to do with blind faith, but some need to recognize that the difference between a great coach and a bad coach is not always the outcome of a couple of risky plays.

Sean Payton is hands down the best coach this team has ever had and quite possibly will have for quite a while.

If you really do not like the QB and the coach, why are you a fan of that team? Colors? Mascot?

I mostly agree with this sentiment but you gotta admit the safe play calling to not lose games hasn't been working as of late. When the game was close in Atlanta back in November we ran a play to try to get the first down. It worked and allowed us to run out most of the clock. We don't do that in new England and we lose. We don't do it in Carolina and we lose.

I just expect Payton to realize what isn't working and correct it like he did with our LT and kicker. Playing not to lose isn't working.

Euphoria · 12-23-2013, 03:19 PM

He is a great coach but when he blows it we can still put him on blast!

WillSaints81 · 12-23-2013, 05:15 PM

In other words its about God. I have been saying for a while now God plays a role in sports especially when it matters most. You don't win without God. Its who God deems fit out of the playoff games to deserve a ring the most. With how this season is going, it just might be Denver. But God does not control every winner in the playoffs just the special ones. The rest comes down to experience and knowledge.

12-23-2013, 12:57 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Sean Payton's play calling Same play style that blew a FG against Carolina last night won the Saints a SB. "Do something different" It fails "Why did we do something different" When out of the box thinking works it's called brilliance; when it fails, a coaches integrity, heart, and intelligence are questioned. Nothing works all the time and some fans need to learn to take the bad with the good. Trying not to be such a hypocrite has nothing to do with blind faith, but some need to recognize that the difference between a great coach and a bad coach is not always the outcome of a couple of risky plays. Sean Payton is hands down the best coach this team has ever had and quite possibly will have for quite a while. If you really do not like the QB and the coach, why are you a fan of that team? Colors? Mascot? Boutte, Mardigras9 and MaggieMayTB like this.
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12-23-2013, 01:01 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,360	Re: Sean Payton's play calling But calling 3 consecutive runs up the gut against 9 man fronts when we needed 1 first down How about calling 2 consecutive screens when the first lost us 6 yards and carolina made it clear they knew all of our screen looks He called that swing pass to pierre 4 times and we didnt gain positive yardage on any of them I just think he needs to stop the committee approach and leave people in the game, we are way too predictable MarchingOn likes this.

12-23-2013, 01:19 PM	#3
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Sean Payton's play calling same thing over and over. But this time we get zero results AlaskaSaints likes this.

12-23-2013, 01:21 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Sean Payton's play calling Payton is a great coach... just not a very good offensive coordinator; at least not the best we have available. MarchingOn likes this.

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Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Sean Payton's play calling Unbelievable. Payton is great offensive play calling coach. There was no reason not to try to run down the clock with runs the way the defense had been handling their offense all day. Not that role out on third down probably wouldn't have been a better plan. But the Panthers made the plays when they needed to to win the game and you have to give Scam props for that. Close games go either way and just happens this one didn't go ours, most do. TheOak likes this.

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12-23-2013, 01:33 PM	#6
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Sean Payton's play calling If the on-side had backfired, he would have been fried for that one too. TheOak likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Sean Payton's play calling Originally Posted by dizzle88 But calling 3 consecutive runs up the gut against 9 man fronts when we needed 1 first down How about calling 2 consecutive screens when the first lost us 6 yards and carolina made it clear they knew all of our screen looks He called that swing pass to pierre 4 times and we didnt gain positive yardage on any of them I just think he needs to stop the committee approach and leave people in the game, we are way too predictable Do you expect a failed play right after the same play failed? Not many do. Certainly no one would run a failed play twice so the line up must be a mask for something. Some times you hide in the open brother. Last thing they are expecting.

12-23-2013, 03:08 PM	#8
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Sean Payton's play calling Originally Posted by TheOak Same play style that blew a FG against Carolina last night won the Saints a SB. "Do something different" It fails "Why did we do something different" When out of the box thinking works it's called brilliance; when it fails, a coaches integrity, heart, and intelligence are questioned. Nothing works all the time and some fans need to learn to take the bad with the good. Trying not to be such a hypocrite has nothing to do with blind faith, but some need to recognize that the difference between a great coach and a bad coach is not always the outcome of a couple of risky plays. Sean Payton is hands down the best coach this team has ever had and quite possibly will have for quite a while. If you really do not like the QB and the coach, why are you a fan of that team? Colors? Mascot? I mostly agree with this sentiment but you gotta admit the safe play calling to not lose games hasn't been working as of late. When the game was close in Atlanta back in November we ran a play to try to get the first down. It worked and allowed us to run out most of the clock. We don't do that in new England and we lose. We don't do it in Carolina and we lose. I just expect Payton to realize what isn't working and correct it like he did with our LT and kicker. Playing not to lose isn't working. MarchingOn likes this.
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12-23-2013, 03:19 PM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Sean Payton's play calling He is a great coach but when he blows it we can still put him on blast! RailBoss likes this.

12-23-2013, 05:15 PM	#10
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Sean Payton's play calling In other words its about God. I have been saying for a while now God plays a role in sports especially when it matters most. You don't win without God. Its who God deems fit out of the playoff games to deserve a ring the most. With how this season is going, it just might be Denver. But God does not control every winner in the playoffs just the special ones. The rest comes down to experience and knowledge.

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