Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper

SaintLeonard · 12-28-2013, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I would miss Harper.....Jenkins not so much.

I agree with this.

Jenkins deserves all the criticism he gets, but a lot of Harper's is unwarranted. He's a good player.

Danno · 12-28-2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

I agree with this.

Jenkins deserves all the criticism he gets, but a lot of Harper's is unwarranted. He's a good player.

I think it's likely due to the average fan not knowing the difference between a SS, FS and CB.
Harper was a good SS. Too bad too many fans don't know what a SS is.

halloween 65 · 12-28-2013, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

I agree with this.

Jenkins deserves all the criticism he gets, but a lot of Harper's is unwarranted. He's a good player.

Very true!! I don't think Harper is the best SS ever but he is much better than most.A good SS is hard to come by. I do think when it said and done V might be the aire to Harper. V has a SS mentality. Look how well Harper played with Sharper compared to with Jenkins, it's really no comparision.

Danno · 12-28-2013, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Very true!! I don't think Harper is the best SS ever but he is much better than most.A good SS is hard to come by. I do think when it said and done V might be the aire to Harper. V has a SS mentality.

While Harper is a much under-appreciated SS, Vaccaro has all the tools to become a Superstar DB. He's a tad better than Harper is at SS, but he's much better as an all around DB.

Vaccaro has Polamalu potential, but potentially being better in coverage. Wow!

He has a long way to go because his coverage skills are only slightly better than Harper's right now, but the sky is his limit for him.

halloween 65 · 12-28-2013, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

While Harper is a much under-appreciated SS, Vaccaro has all the tools to become a Superstar DB. He's a tad better than Harper is at SS, but he's much better as an all around DB.

Vaccaro has Polamalu potential, but potentially being better in coverage. Wow!

He has a long way to go because his coverage skills are only slightly better than Harper's right now, but the sky is his limit for him.

Danno, you do make this interesting, it will depend on how the DC wants to use him, I see what your saying.It would take 2 more pieces to use him that way, maybe 1 if Cory White pans out which I think he will, I could only hope White turns into a Richard Sherman type. A really good true FS is a must to play him that way.

K Major · 12-28-2013, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

Jenkins deserves all the criticism he gets

+1

Papa Voodoo · 12-28-2013, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

People can defend Harper, but their has not been anyone that has burned us so much especially in key games than Roman Harper.

Theirs plenty proof to back it up, last week vs Carolina 2 big plays he was the target, San Fran playoffs 2011 he was the target, Seattle 2010 he was the target. Hes been the target and recipient of too many TDs thrown on the defense in recent years, he usually gets pissed off because of it that hes in someones face after the play talking ****, remember a couple years ago when he hit Steve Smith in the end zone? All Harper does is take bad angles, bad judgement, and is not speedy enough to even be out there.

With Vaccaro gone, its going to get worse for Harper.

People wont admit it, hes the new Jason David of this era. Do away with him, things like this will get cleaned up.

Remember when he made the huge INT versus ATL this year to win the game on the best TE to ever play football? Jenkins is much worse than Harper.

Cruize · 12-28-2013, 11:35 PM

Harper is a good in the box safety. He's not good in coverage. Simple as that. His salary is his major drawback to the team. For the right price, I would love to see him back in a role with the team. But, if the Saints could find another Vaccaro type player, it wouldn't concern me in the least if Haper and Jenkins moved on.

RaginCajun83 · 12-29-2013, 11:43 AM

I'd miss neither and hope Loomis sees the light and replaces both of them this offseason

Boutte · 12-29-2013, 12:04 PM

I think Jenkins is a lot better when playing next Vaccarro and vice versa. Harper and Jenkins are a bad combination. Either is a lot better when the other isn't on the field.

12-28-2013, 02:56 PM	#21
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I would miss Harper.....Jenkins not so much. I agree with this. Jenkins deserves all the criticism he gets, but a lot of Harper's is unwarranted. He's a good player. Papa Voodoo likes this.

12-28-2013, 03:09 PM	#22
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,725	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper Originally Posted by SaintLeonard I agree with this. Jenkins deserves all the criticism he gets, but a lot of Harper's is unwarranted. He's a good player. I think it's likely due to the average fan not knowing the difference between a SS, FS and CB. Harper was a good SS. Too bad too many fans don't know what a SS is. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-28-2013, 03:59 PM	#23
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper Originally Posted by SaintLeonard I agree with this. Jenkins deserves all the criticism he gets, but a lot of Harper's is unwarranted. He's a good player. Very true!! I don't think Harper is the best SS ever but he is much better than most.A good SS is hard to come by. I do think when it said and done V might be the aire to Harper. V has a SS mentality. Look how well Harper played with Sharper compared to with Jenkins, it's really no comparision.

12-28-2013, 04:06 PM	#24
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,725	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper Originally Posted by halloween 65 Very true!! I don't think Harper is the best SS ever but he is much better than most.A good SS is hard to come by. I do think when it said and done V might be the aire to Harper. V has a SS mentality. While Harper is a much under-appreciated SS, Vaccaro has all the tools to become a Superstar DB. He's a tad better than Harper is at SS, but he's much better as an all around DB. Vaccaro has Polamalu potential, but potentially being better in coverage. Wow! He has a long way to go because his coverage skills are only slightly better than Harper's right now, but the sky is his limit for him.

12-28-2013, 04:30 PM	#25
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper Originally Posted by Danno While Harper is a much under-appreciated SS, Vaccaro has all the tools to become a Superstar DB. He's a tad better than Harper is at SS, but he's much better as an all around DB. Vaccaro has Polamalu potential, but potentially being better in coverage. Wow! He has a long way to go because his coverage skills are only slightly better than Harper's right now, but the sky is his limit for him. Danno, you do make this interesting, it will depend on how the DC wants to use him, I see what your saying.It would take 2 more pieces to use him that way, maybe 1 if Cory White pans out which I think he will, I could only hope White turns into a Richard Sherman type. A really good true FS is a must to play him that way.

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Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper Originally Posted by Vrillon82 People can defend Harper, but their has not been anyone that has burned us so much especially in key games than Roman Harper. Theirs plenty proof to back it up, last week vs Carolina 2 big plays he was the target, San Fran playoffs 2011 he was the target, Seattle 2010 he was the target. Hes been the target and recipient of too many TDs thrown on the defense in recent years, he usually gets pissed off because of it that hes in someones face after the play talking ****, remember a couple years ago when he hit Steve Smith in the end zone? All Harper does is take bad angles, bad judgement, and is not speedy enough to even be out there. With Vaccaro gone, its going to get worse for Harper. People wont admit it, hes the new Jason David of this era. Do away with him, things like this will get cleaned up. Remember when he made the huge INT versus ATL this year to win the game on the best TE to ever play football? Jenkins is much worse than Harper.

12-28-2013, 11:35 PM	#28
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper Harper is a good in the box safety. He's not good in coverage. Simple as that. His salary is his major drawback to the team. For the right price, I would love to see him back in a role with the team. But, if the Saints could find another Vaccaro type player, it wouldn't concern me in the least if Haper and Jenkins moved on.
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12-29-2013, 11:43 AM	#29
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper I'd miss neither and hope Loomis sees the light and replaces both of them this offseason jeanpierre likes this.

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Sunday could be final home game in New Orleans Saints uniform for safety Roman Harper I think Jenkins is a lot better when playing next Vaccarro and vice versa. Harper and Jenkins are a bad combination. Either is a lot better when the other isn't on the field.

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