Run Game Key to Winning on the Road

ScottF · 12-30-2013, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Brother... We have not had "balance" in one game this season.

In the new England game drew had 36 passing attempts and 26 rushing attempts. Close to his lowest pass attempts all season.

I understand they were close games... What I am saying is that there is no evidence that running more is THE key to anything.

Exactly. We don't run the ball that well. Period.
We were 5-0 and hadn't run for sh**, other than Robinson garbage runs against Arizona. We beat Chicago, in Chicago, with 64 yards rushing.

We have Brees, and Graham, and Still, Colston, Moore, Sproles, PT, etc.
Throw it.

Let's save the tired 'we have to run' for Lombardi, Noll and Ditka. Times have changed

TheOak · 12-30-2013, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Exactly. We don't run the ball that well. Period.
We were 5-0 and hadn't run for sh**, other than Robinson garbage runs against Arizona. We beat Chicago, in Chicago, with 64 yards rushing.

We have Brees, and Graham, and Still, Colston, Moore, Sproles, PT, etc.
Throw it.

Let's save the tired 'we have to run' for Lombardi, Noll and Ditka. Times have changed

I think that is where the confusion is. It is not that we do not try, we just can not do it well enough consistently.

K Major · 12-30-2013, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by xan

Eagles have excellent cover lbs. They snuff out screens better than most teams and are excellent against the run. That being said, their DBs are vulnerable

+1. Did you by chance see #95 2nd year player from Cal Mycal Kendricks last night? This guy is a special player. We will have our hands full containing him.

spkb25 · 12-30-2013, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Running for the sake of running is not exactly what I would call a game plan.

The Eagles have the #10 rush Defense and the #32 passing defense.

Saints Rushing yards +100 yard games
Dallas - 242 W
@New England - 131 L
@Panthers 126 L
Cardinals 104 W
@Falcons - 103 W

Obviously if rushing was key to winning we would have beat the Patriots and Panthers.

I say we can run through pass. We need to hold the ball and tire their d. A short efficient passing attack does that. We won a super bowl doing that again the Colts. We couldn't run that game

spkb25 · 12-30-2013, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

People just want to make it as simple as we need to run the ball more. That's not the problem. We turn th ball over more on the road. Drew is far more prone to interceptions away from New Orleans.

As far as the run game goes, I honestly wouldn't mind phasing Sproles out and running a Robinson and Ingram power runner backfield. I don't think we've seen them peek. Pierre Thomas has. And Sproles too.

A lot of that is poor pass protection on the road too. Lot of blame to go around on the road, and this is me agreeing with you and discussing.

Yeah, we can run through a short passing attack, in my opinion.

Graham should have a big game

TheOak · 12-30-2013, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I say we can run through pass. We need to hold the ball and tire their d. A short efficient passing attack does that. We won a super bowl doing that again the Colts. We couldn't run that game

We need to burn long in the passing game... Their strength is their LBs in coverage.

spkb25 · 12-30-2013, 11:36 AM

We need to do whatever it is that their defense is most likely to allow. Depending on their coverages, etc we need to find the holes.

They do not have a great defense, this game comes down to our offense and how well they execute.

spkb25 · 12-30-2013, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

We need to burn long in the passing game... Their strength is their LBs in coverage.

We do, and I agree, but I am just saying we can maintain ball control through short passing attack, and they seem to be weak over the middle. Graham should have a good game

Schmohams · 12-30-2013, 11:44 AM

We express our run game through screens and short passes, it doesn't show up on stats sheets but teams respect the Saints screen system. The Eagles are fast, dead fast, we need to watch out and not chase tackles.

Beastmode · 12-30-2013, 11:52 AM

I cringe like you all when I see Brees running but may have to do it. I think we will see more of that like yesterday. Not forcing it, step up and take off for a small gain. It would totally catch the Eagles off guard. Nobody was home when he scored yesterday. Nobody.

12-30-2013, 11:13 AM	#21
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road Originally Posted by TheOak Brother... We have not had "balance" in one game this season. In the new England game drew had 36 passing attempts and 26 rushing attempts. Close to his lowest pass attempts all season. I understand they were close games... What I am saying is that there is no evidence that running more is THE key to anything. Exactly. We don't run the ball that well. Period. We were 5-0 and hadn't run for sh**, other than Robinson garbage runs against Arizona. We beat Chicago, in Chicago, with 64 yards rushing. We have Brees, and Graham, and Still, Colston, Moore, Sproles, PT, etc. Throw it. Let's save the tired 'we have to run' for Lombardi, Noll and Ditka. Times have changed

12-30-2013, 11:17 AM	#22
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road Originally Posted by ScottF Exactly. We don't run the ball that well. Period. We were 5-0 and hadn't run for sh**, other than Robinson garbage runs against Arizona. We beat Chicago, in Chicago, with 64 yards rushing. We have Brees, and Graham, and Still, Colston, Moore, Sproles, PT, etc. Throw it. Let's save the tired 'we have to run' for Lombardi, Noll and Ditka. Times have changed I think that is where the confusion is. It is not that we do not try, we just can not do it well enough consistently. Beastmode likes this.

12-30-2013, 11:28 AM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road Originally Posted by xan Eagles have excellent cover lbs. They snuff out screens better than most teams and are excellent against the run. That being said, their DBs are vulnerable +1. Did you by chance see #95 2nd year player from Cal Mycal Kendricks last night? This guy is a special player. We will have our hands full containing him.

12-30-2013, 11:32 AM	#24
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road Originally Posted by TheOak Running for the sake of running is not exactly what I would call a game plan. The Eagles have the #10 rush Defense and the #32 passing defense. Saints Rushing yards +100 yard games Dallas - 242 W @New England - 131 L @Panthers 126 L Cardinals 104 W @Falcons - 103 W Obviously if rushing was key to winning we would have beat the Patriots and Panthers. I say we can run through pass. We need to hold the ball and tire their d. A short efficient passing attack does that. We won a super bowl doing that again the Colts. We couldn't run that game

12-30-2013, 11:34 AM	#25
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road Originally Posted by rezburna People just want to make it as simple as we need to run the ball more. That's not the problem. We turn th ball over more on the road. Drew is far more prone to interceptions away from New Orleans. As far as the run game goes, I honestly wouldn't mind phasing Sproles out and running a Robinson and Ingram power runner backfield. I don't think we've seen them peek. Pierre Thomas has. And Sproles too. A lot of that is poor pass protection on the road too. Lot of blame to go around on the road, and this is me agreeing with you and discussing. Yeah, we can run through a short passing attack, in my opinion. Graham should have a big game

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12-30-2013, 11:35 AM	#26
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road Originally Posted by spkb25 I say we can run through pass. We need to hold the ball and tire their d. A short efficient passing attack does that. We won a super bowl doing that again the Colts. We couldn't run that game We need to burn long in the passing game... Their strength is their LBs in coverage.

12-30-2013, 11:36 AM	#27
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road We need to do whatever it is that their defense is most likely to allow. Depending on their coverages, etc we need to find the holes. They do not have a great defense, this game comes down to our offense and how well they execute.

12-30-2013, 11:37 AM	#28
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road Originally Posted by TheOak We need to burn long in the passing game... Their strength is their LBs in coverage. We do, and I agree, but I am just saying we can maintain ball control through short passing attack, and they seem to be weak over the middle. Graham should have a good game

12-30-2013, 11:44 AM	#29
Schmohams 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road We express our run game through screens and short passes, it doesn't show up on stats sheets but teams respect the Saints screen system. The Eagles are fast, dead fast, we need to watch out and not chase tackles.

12-30-2013, 11:52 AM	#30
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Run Game Key to Winning on the Road I cringe like you all when I see Brees running but may have to do it. I think we will see more of that like yesterday. Not forcing it, step up and take off for a small gain. It would totally catch the Eagles off guard. Nobody was home when he scored yesterday. Nobody.
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