Kenny Stills

SaintLeonard · 12-30-2013, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

The same could be said of Meachem and Henderson and we utilized their speed for years to stretch defenses. Hell, we resigned Meachem because Morgan was gonna be out for the year. I will gladly welcome Morgan back.

That is true, good point. Although if we're resigning Morgan, he needs a paycut. We're paying him 1.4 Mil, and a speed demon who stretches defenses isn't worth that.

ChrisXVI · 12-30-2013, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

That is true, good point. Although if we're resigning Morgan, he needs a paycut. We're paying him 1.4 Mil, and a speed demon who stretches defenses isn't worth that.

Woah... I didn't know we were paying him that much. That's insane for an undrafted free agent who has only actually played in one of his three seasons as a pro. Definitely gotta restructure that contract!

Danno · 12-31-2013, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

That is true, good point. Although if we're resigning Morgan, he needs a paycut. We're paying him 1.4 Mil, and a speed demon who stretches defenses isn't worth that.

1.4 million was the 3 year total. He's making about 500,000 per season which is barely over NFL minimum.

alleycat_126 · 12-31-2013, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

I think some people ITT are overrating Morgan. He's fast.. But that's it. Not a very good route runner and his hands aren't the greatest. That's the difference between him and Stills.

I'm not overrating him. I'm rating him for what we are missing.... A field stretcher... Although I'm sure he can develop route skills, right now we are short on somebody to run the 9 route..... Where he thrived last season. I would also love to see Morgan on kick returns to help the one good return a season return game.

TheOak · 12-31-2013, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

I'm not overrating him. I'm rating him for what we are missing.... A field stretcher... Although I'm sure he can develop route skills, right now we are short on somebody to run the 9 route..... Where he thrived last season. I would also love to see Morgan on kick returns to help the one good return a season return game.

Until Drew starts hitting the 9 in stride, Stills is all we need.

jeanpierre · 12-31-2013, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Until Drew starts hitting the 9 in stride, Stills is all we need.

See, this is what I've been saying - Brees isn't getting it done downfield; that doesn't mean I don't want him as our QB, but too often receivers are having to slow down, sometimes stop for the ball; and when the contract was being done, it should have been brought up...

alleycat_126 · 01-02-2014, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Until Drew starts hitting the 9 in stride, Stills is all we need.

I think a lot of people are over rated the ball placement thing a lot here. That ball is most times where it's supposed to be. Could it be a few inches further forward yes.... But does it matter if it was on time probably not.

TheOak · 01-02-2014, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

I think a lot of people are over rated the ball placement thing a lot here. That ball is most times where it's supposed to be. Could it be a few inches further forward yes.... But does it matter if it was on time probably not.

On the 9 three feet is the difference between jump ball for a defender or Stills having an open field in stride after the catch.

jeanpierre · 12-31-2013, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

I'm not overrating him. I'm rating him for what we are missing.... A field stretcher... Although I'm sure he can develop route skills, right now we are short on somebody to run the 9 route..... Where he thrived last season. I would also love to see Morgan on kick returns to help the one good return a season return game.

Alley, don't often disagree with you but Stills, Meachem, and even Toon (when he can catch the ball) are more than capable of stretching the field...

Brees is just not making, or getting, the downfield opportunities he's made or had in the past...

Nothing against Joe, I just think what we had on the field at WR was ideal for who we are...

hagan714 · 12-30-2013, 05:48 PM

i really think the WR depth is wide open and yes consecutive years on IR count against you just as much as riding the bench.

great draft year for WR in the middle to late rounds. healthy one too

12-30-2013, 05:59 PM	#1
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by ChrisXVI The same could be said of Meachem and Henderson and we utilized their speed for years to stretch defenses. Hell, we resigned Meachem because Morgan was gonna be out for the year. I will gladly welcome Morgan back. That is true, good point. Although if we're resigning Morgan, he needs a paycut. We're paying him 1.4 Mil, and a speed demon who stretches defenses isn't worth that. ChrisXVI likes this.

12-30-2013, 06:10 PM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by SaintLeonard That is true, good point. Although if we're resigning Morgan, he needs a paycut. We're paying him 1.4 Mil, and a speed demon who stretches defenses isn't worth that. Woah... I didn't know we were paying him that much. That's insane for an undrafted free agent who has only actually played in one of his three seasons as a pro. Definitely gotta restructure that contract!

12-31-2013, 08:49 AM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by SaintLeonard That is true, good point. Although if we're resigning Morgan, he needs a paycut. We're paying him 1.4 Mil, and a speed demon who stretches defenses isn't worth that. 1.4 million was the 3 year total. He's making about 500,000 per season which is barely over NFL minimum. WhoDat2301 likes this.

12-31-2013, 11:45 AM	#4
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by SaintLeonard I think some people ITT are overrating Morgan. He's fast.. But that's it. Not a very good route runner and his hands aren't the greatest. That's the difference between him and Stills. I'm not overrating him. I'm rating him for what we are missing.... A field stretcher... Although I'm sure he can develop route skills, right now we are short on somebody to run the 9 route..... Where he thrived last season. I would also love to see Morgan on kick returns to help the one good return a season return game.

12-31-2013, 12:04 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by alleycat_126 I'm not overrating him. I'm rating him for what we are missing.... A field stretcher... Although I'm sure he can develop route skills, right now we are short on somebody to run the 9 route..... Where he thrived last season. I would also love to see Morgan on kick returns to help the one good return a season return game. Until Drew starts hitting the 9 in stride, Stills is all we need. jeanpierre likes this.

12-31-2013, 01:56 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by TheOak Until Drew starts hitting the 9 in stride, Stills is all we need. See, this is what I've been saying - Brees isn't getting it done downfield; that doesn't mean I don't want him as our QB, but too often receivers are having to slow down, sometimes stop for the ball; and when the contract was being done, it should have been brought up...

01-02-2014, 08:02 AM	#7
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by TheOak Until Drew starts hitting the 9 in stride, Stills is all we need. I think a lot of people are over rated the ball placement thing a lot here. That ball is most times where it's supposed to be. Could it be a few inches further forward yes.... But does it matter if it was on time probably not.

01-02-2014, 08:27 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by alleycat_126 I think a lot of people are over rated the ball placement thing a lot here. That ball is most times where it's supposed to be. Could it be a few inches further forward yes.... But does it matter if it was on time probably not. On the 9 three feet is the difference between jump ball for a defender or Stills having an open field in stride after the catch.

12-31-2013, 01:30 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Kenny Stills Originally Posted by alleycat_126 I'm not overrating him. I'm rating him for what we are missing.... A field stretcher... Although I'm sure he can develop route skills, right now we are short on somebody to run the 9 route..... Where he thrived last season. I would also love to see Morgan on kick returns to help the one good return a season return game. Alley, don't often disagree with you but Stills, Meachem, and even Toon (when he can catch the ball) are more than capable of stretching the field... Brees is just not making, or getting, the downfield opportunities he's made or had in the past... Nothing against Joe, I just think what we had on the field at WR was ideal for who we are... ScottF likes this.

12-30-2013, 05:48 PM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Kenny Stills i really think the WR depth is wide open and yes consecutive years on IR count against you just as much as riding the bench. great draft year for WR in the middle to late rounds. healthy one too

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