Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance.....

SaintsBro · 01-02-2014, 09:30 PM

Obviously some people here have not heard the angry "you think you're worth 15 yards?" comment by Payton from the Mic'd Up segment they did on him a couple of years ago. No way Payton was fine with it, or encourages it among his players -- like Danno said, I'm sure he was furious. "Swagger" is something entirely different, too - that's a Brees thing that Brees always talks about, it's like a quiet confidence type of thing, or knowing you're a complete badazz ball player, knowing that your stuff is gonna work and you're gonna get results and big plays, it's not a fun or exuberant thing. TD celebrations is not what they are talking about when they talk about swagger.

alleycat_126 · 01-03-2014, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

"Swagger" is something entirely different, too - that's a Brees thing that Brees always talks about, it's like a quiet confidence type of thing, or knowing you're a complete badazz ball player, knowing that your stuff is gonna work and you're gonna get results and big plays, it's not a fun or exuberant thing. TD celebrations is not what they are talking about when they talk about swagger.

You know what, your right.... Swagger is not about TD celebrations. But when you have put the time in... done what you are supposed to do in the classroom, in practice, and then your number is called and your play is successful, you deserve to celebrate... Even if your celebration is a little bit more boisterous than just handing the ball to the referee... ala Drew brew Brees rushing touchdown dunks!!!

Ashley · 01-02-2014, 10:34 PM

That was bad.... Real bad.

subguy · 01-03-2014, 03:03 AM

Not a fan of the dry hump dance! I like Lance Moore but he is really the only "celebrator we have. I guess I need a sense of humor too. To be an even bigger buzz kill it is a really selfish act to limelight yourself at the expense of the penalty. Not trying to be uptight it is just stupid.

TheOak · 01-03-2014, 07:10 AM

Lance didn't get a penalty..... And to each his own.

Congrats on the degree Lance.

Barry from MS · 01-03-2014, 10:53 PM

Bottom line...7-0 in the 1st Qtr and we give an inferior opponent 15 yards. It was soon 7-7 with giving up field position. Against an inferior opponent.

My opinion (as if it matters): any unnecessary celebration dance that causes a disadvantage to your own team is the essence of STUPIDITY. Think his defensive teammates or special teams folks liked giving up 15 free yards? To an inferior opponent...in the 1st Qtr of a must-win game to get into the playoffs? Bush League and idiotic, selfish and moronic.

alleycat_126 · 01-04-2014, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Bottom line...7-0 in the 1st Qtr and we give an inferior opponent 15 yards. It was soon 7-7 with giving up field position. Against an inferior opponent.

My opinion (as if it matters): any unnecessary celebration dance that causes a disadvantage to your own team is the essence of STUPIDITY. Think his defensive teammates or special teams folks liked giving up 15 free yards? To an inferior opponent...in the 1st Qtr of a must-win game to get into the playoffs? Bush League and idiotic, selfish and moronic.

Trust me I value all opinions, you call it unnecessary, I call it much needed. It's a nerve packed home crowd that has been fed stories all week about their collapsing squad, we had not scored a first drive TD almost since the beginning of the season......when he scored and got into his little routine, it was in a way sorta like saying "hay calm down we got this"

Barry from MS · 01-04-2014, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Trust me I value all opinions, you call it unnecessary, I call it much needed. It's a nerve packed home crowd that has been fed stories all week about their collapsing squad, we had not scored a first drive TD almost since the beginning of the season......when he scored and got into his little routine, it was in a way sorta like saying "hay calm down we got this"

Good point on calming the nerves and worries of some of the home crowd and maybe even some on the team with that 1st TD celebration. But as you can see from the previous posts on this thread, it surely didn't encompass all of the fan base. And it certainly didn't put our special teams and defense at ease.

If we wanted to make a statement with swagger and saying "we got this", I think most of us would agree the best way to accomplish that would have been: Morestead kicks from the 35 and sends it through the end zone on the kickoff for the touchback, the defense never lets TB get a yard for a 3-and-out, we get the ball back around the 35 yard line, then march down 65 yards and take a 14-0 lead in the 1st Qtr. Instead of 7-7, it's 14-0.

Going into the playoffs, any 15 yards is too valuable to shart away for something as selfish and petty as a TD celebration dance. But maybe I'm old?

Mardigras9 · 01-04-2014, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Bottom line...7-0 in the 1st Qtr and we give an inferior opponent 15 yards. It was soon 7-7 with giving up field position. Against an inferior opponent.

My opinion (as if it matters): any unnecessary celebration dance that causes a disadvantage to your own team is the essence of STUPIDITY. Think his defensive teammates or special teams folks liked giving up 15 free yards? To an inferior opponent...in the 1st Qtr of a must-win game to get into the playoffs? Bush League and idiotic, selfish and moronic.

Agreed, and the Saints have shown playing an inferior opponent DOES NOT mean sure win. I can't stand the showboating either, but maybe it's an age thing.

Danno · 01-04-2014, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Bottom line...7-0 in the 1st Qtr and we give an inferior opponent 15 yards. It was soon 7-7 with giving up field position. Against an inferior opponent.

My opinion (as if it matters): any unnecessary celebration dance that causes a disadvantage to your own team is the essence of STUPIDITY. Think his defensive teammates or special teams folks liked giving up 15 free yards? To an inferior opponent...in the 1st Qtr of a must-win game to get into the playoffs? Bush League and idiotic, selfish and moronic.

Barry... dropping that hammer of truth!!!

01-02-2014, 09:30 PM	#1
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Obviously some people here have not heard the angry "you think you're worth 15 yards?" comment by Payton from the Mic'd Up segment they did on him a couple of years ago. No way Payton was fine with it, or encourages it among his players -- like Danno said, I'm sure he was furious. "Swagger" is something entirely different, too - that's a Brees thing that Brees always talks about, it's like a quiet confidence type of thing, or knowing you're a complete badazz ball player, knowing that your stuff is gonna work and you're gonna get results and big plays, it's not a fun or exuberant thing. TD celebrations is not what they are talking about when they talk about swagger.

01-03-2014, 05:13 AM	#2
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Originally Posted by SaintsBro "Swagger" is something entirely different, too - that's a Brees thing that Brees always talks about, it's like a quiet confidence type of thing, or knowing you're a complete badazz ball player, knowing that your stuff is gonna work and you're gonna get results and big plays, it's not a fun or exuberant thing. TD celebrations is not what they are talking about when they talk about swagger. You know what, your right.... Swagger is not about TD celebrations. But when you have put the time in... done what you are supposed to do in the classroom, in practice, and then your number is called and your play is successful, you deserve to celebrate... Even if your celebration is a little bit more boisterous than just handing the ball to the referee... ala Drew brew Brees rushing touchdown dunks!!! Kryptonite likes this.

01-02-2014, 10:34 PM	#3
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... That was bad.... Real bad.

01-03-2014, 03:03 AM	#4
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,103	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Not a fan of the dry hump dance! I like Lance Moore but he is really the only "celebrator we have. I guess I need a sense of humor too. To be an even bigger buzz kill it is a really selfish act to limelight yourself at the expense of the penalty. Not trying to be uptight it is just stupid.

01-03-2014, 07:10 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Lance didn't get a penalty..... And to each his own. Congrats on the degree Lance. kcsaints likes this.

01-03-2014, 10:53 PM	#6
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Bottom line...7-0 in the 1st Qtr and we give an inferior opponent 15 yards. It was soon 7-7 with giving up field position. Against an inferior opponent. My opinion (as if it matters): any unnecessary celebration dance that causes a disadvantage to your own team is the essence of STUPIDITY. Think his defensive teammates or special teams folks liked giving up 15 free yards? To an inferior opponent...in the 1st Qtr of a must-win game to get into the playoffs? Bush League and idiotic, selfish and moronic. Danno and K Major like this.

01-04-2014, 04:25 AM	#7
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Originally Posted by Barry from MS Bottom line...7-0 in the 1st Qtr and we give an inferior opponent 15 yards. It was soon 7-7 with giving up field position. Against an inferior opponent. My opinion (as if it matters): any unnecessary celebration dance that causes a disadvantage to your own team is the essence of STUPIDITY. Think his defensive teammates or special teams folks liked giving up 15 free yards? To an inferior opponent...in the 1st Qtr of a must-win game to get into the playoffs? Bush League and idiotic, selfish and moronic. Trust me I value all opinions, you call it unnecessary, I call it much needed. It's a nerve packed home crowd that has been fed stories all week about their collapsing squad, we had not scored a first drive TD almost since the beginning of the season......when he scored and got into his little routine, it was in a way sorta like saying "hay calm down we got this"

01-04-2014, 12:02 PM	#8
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Trust me I value all opinions, you call it unnecessary, I call it much needed. It's a nerve packed home crowd that has been fed stories all week about their collapsing squad, we had not scored a first drive TD almost since the beginning of the season......when he scored and got into his little routine, it was in a way sorta like saying "hay calm down we got this" Good point on calming the nerves and worries of some of the home crowd and maybe even some on the team with that 1st TD celebration. But as you can see from the previous posts on this thread, it surely didn't encompass all of the fan base. And it certainly didn't put our special teams and defense at ease. If we wanted to make a statement with swagger and saying "we got this", I think most of us would agree the best way to accomplish that would have been: Morestead kicks from the 35 and sends it through the end zone on the kickoff for the touchback, the defense never lets TB get a yard for a 3-and-out, we get the ball back around the 35 yard line, then march down 65 yards and take a 14-0 lead in the 1st Qtr. Instead of 7-7, it's 14-0. Going into the playoffs, any 15 yards is too valuable to shart away for something as selfish and petty as a TD celebration dance. But maybe I'm old?
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01-04-2014, 07:42 AM	#9
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Originally Posted by Barry from MS Bottom line...7-0 in the 1st Qtr and we give an inferior opponent 15 yards. It was soon 7-7 with giving up field position. Against an inferior opponent. My opinion (as if it matters): any unnecessary celebration dance that causes a disadvantage to your own team is the essence of STUPIDITY. Think his defensive teammates or special teams folks liked giving up 15 free yards? To an inferior opponent...in the 1st Qtr of a must-win game to get into the playoffs? Bush League and idiotic, selfish and moronic. Agreed, and the Saints have shown playing an inferior opponent DOES NOT mean sure win. I can't stand the showboating either, but maybe it's an age thing.

01-04-2014, 09:40 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Inspiration for Lance's Last Dance..... Originally Posted by Barry from MS Bottom line...7-0 in the 1st Qtr and we give an inferior opponent 15 yards. It was soon 7-7 with giving up field position. Against an inferior opponent. My opinion (as if it matters): any unnecessary celebration dance that causes a disadvantage to your own team is the essence of STUPIDITY. Think his defensive teammates or special teams folks liked giving up 15 free yards? To an inferior opponent...in the 1st Qtr of a must-win game to get into the playoffs? Bush League and idiotic, selfish and moronic. Barry... dropping that hammer of truth!!!

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