lee909

Just reading some reports on the mid/late round centres and it seems a really weak spot in the draft.All of them either lack strength or really struggle with speed. Im hoping that the Saints maybe bring Goodwin in for a year and see about developing one of them for a year and if they are not up to it draft the best C next year.

Example report

(C) Gabe Ikard
Just reading up on him now as a mid/late round Centre.
The report is he is on the ground alot and not to strong,also struggles with speed.



Next year early rankings have Hroniss Grasu Oregon and Reese Dismukes Auburn as the best two centres.

STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES

STRENGTHS: Impressive quickness to render opponents ineffective, often peeling off the defensive tackle to take on defenders at the second level when run blocking and easily sliding laterally to handle pass pro duties. Impressive core strength while anchoring. Most impressive, because of his athleticism, Oregon is one of the few teams that asks its center to pull.
WEAKNESSES:

Compares To: Max Unger, C, Seahawks -- like the other former Duck, Grasu relies on athleticism and technique rather than power.

--Rob Rang

PLAYER OVERVIEW

The Los Angeles native was a two-way starter at Crespi High School who was a first-team all-state selection as a sophomore. By the time he was a senior, Grasu was a stalwart on an offensive line paving the way for 1,958 rushing yards.
Like many Oregon recruits, Grasu wasn't highly coveted by all the major programs. A three-star recruit by ESPN.com, Grasu was valued by the Ducks for his athleticism.

After redshirting in 2010, he jumped in as a 14-game starter redshirt freshman. He built his string of consecutive starts to 27 entering the 2013 season after earning first-team Pac-12 honors in 2012. (9/24/13)

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

hagan714

Marcus Martin, C, USC i just do not get. great versatility i guess, starter for two years at ROG moved to OC this year and did OK. Pick him as your #1 OC on the board is putting a heck of a lot of trust upside. Because on tape i do not see a #1 OC in the draft. media department at USC strikes again or what? If he can handle the mental game at the NFL level then he is the right pick

Colorado State's Weston Richburg is a phone both technitian. head on a swivel quick feet, good short area mobility and athleticism. The biggest pluses on the kid is Highly intelligent.great intangibles, Biggest knock is strength. sandwiched between two all pro's and some weight training he should be good to go and only get better

Arkansas' Travis Swanson. Best suited for a zone-blocking scheme? dirty player is always a plus in the trenches if he is smart and gets away with it. There in lies the rub. can he handle the mental aspect of the job at the NFL level. never talked to the kid so i can not answer that concern, but at times his play did leave you wondering. Plus he does not seem to play with his head on a swivel as well i would like.

developmental picks

Utah State's Tyler Larsen Ahh a pre season must watch of mine. He did not disappoint. scrappy blue collar mentality that held his own. he loves his pancakes that is for sure. he definitely is among the best at finishing of his blocks at all levels. i actual watched second level defenders pull and flinch when Tyler had them in his sights. truly fun to watch. man-blocking system? maybe but with his mentality i think he is hard to pigeon hole.

Oklahoma's Gabe Ikard i do not get this kid. he may play up to his competition. at times this year he looked like a #1 OC totally ingored by the media much. So focus and comment are my #1 concerns with him. But the skill set is there

North Carolina Russell Bodine Now IMO here is a player that must interview well and should have probably stayed in school. Because if your looking for a player that may develop into a starter but at the very least has an excellent shot at developing into a valuable backup at both OG and OC for years to come, this might just be the guy. He needs some positioning coaching without a doubt. he got exposed this year trying to be the heart and soul of the interior line. But as a Jr i have to ask learning experience or serious limitations. i am going with a wake up call


As you can see i like interior OL that are blue collar and have a nasty edge to there game. Spiting on a defenders hand is cool in my book, aka Conrad Dobler mentality.

But they have to smart and play with their heads on swivel in order to pick up the complex stunts and blitzes that will have thrown at them at the NFL level.

no matter who you draft you will need a safety blanket IMO in the presence of a veteran mentor to back them up and coach-em.

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

lee909

27
WR ODELL BECKHAM
LSU

58
TE TROY NIKLAS
NOTRE DAME

91
G DAKOTA DOZIER
FURMAN

126
CB RASHAAD REYNOLDS
OREGON STATE

167
C RUSSELL BODINE
NORTH CAROLINA

169
CB AARON COLVIN
OKLAHOMA

202
WR KEVIN NORWOOD
ALABAMA

f15crew09

18
WR ODELL BECKHAM
LSU
91
C WESTON RICHBURG
COLORADO STATE
167
WR RYAN GRANT
TULANE
169
CB NEVIN LAWSON
UTAH STATE
202
ILB ANDREW JACKSON
WESTERN KENTUCKY
222
CB AARON COLVIN
OKLAHOMA


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lee909

Bit early for Grant as there will be better players still on the board in my view.Id rather wait and look at Devin Street,Kevin Norwood or Mike Davis around rounds 4-6.


Andrew Jackson is really interesting,as long as the offfield issue(not sure what it was) are not a issue he is a underlooked talent on paper.


Another interesting one if the team could get his head straight is

Roland Powell

OVERVIEW
2013: Played in 11 games and started in eight. 2012: Tore his left ACL two different times. First ACL tear came in spring game, and then second came during rehab. 2011: Played and started in 12 games. 2010: Played in 13 games and made one start. High school: Was No. 1-rated defensive end recruit (Rivals).

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Looks the part -- well-proportioned, athletic, muscular build. Natural bender. Terrific agility. Can stunt and loop. Closes fast. Flashes strong hands and power potential. Loose hips to zone drop. Was deployed as a stand-up linebacker and hand-in-the-dirt rush end. Has untapped potential.
WEAKNESSES
Inconsistent get-off. Average eyes and instincts -- has to see it before he triggers. Shoddy edge setter. Plays short-armed, gets locked up and allows linemen to capture his outside shoulder. Aimless, unrefined pass rusher. Intensity and urgency leave something to be desired. Has coasted on natural talent. Had his tires pumped since high school -- entitlement was an issue as a young player and his personality could rub some people the wrong way. Injury history.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 3-4

BOTTOM LINE
Powell is a physically gifted, inconsistent, college “Buck” (hybrid defensive end/outside linebacker) with crude strength and athleticism. Has developmental value as a stand-up rush linebacker, but must dedicate himself to the craft and realize he’s no longer the big man on campus.


Ron Powell*, OLB, Florida
Height: 6-3. Weight: 237.
40 Time: 4.65.
Projected Round (2014): 4-6.
4/12/14: Powell started the 2013 season strongly and recorded two sacks against Miami. He got banged up and barely played against Arkansas and LSU. Powell finished the season playing solid football and entered the 2014 NFL Draft rather than taking another injury risk. He notched 26 tackles with seven tackles for a loss and four sacks, but his collegiate career fell far short of expectations. Powell was lighter than expected at the Combine, but he ran well.

8/14/13: Powell was out for the 2012 season after a setback during rehab for his knee injury. The Gators are optimistic that he is in store for a big season in 2013. They are projecting Powell to be a starter, and he has been on the practice field without restrictions in training camp. The redshirt junior has the physical talent to be a first-round pick.

Powell was the No. 1 recruit in the nation in 2010. He had a rough start as a freshman, recording just 25 tackles with 2.5 tackles for a loss and a sack.

Powell was moved was moved to hybrid defensive end and outside linebacker for 2011 in Will Muschamp's defense. The 'Buck' linebacker produced some quality prospects like Sergio Kindle and Brian Orakpo for Muschamp when he ran the defense at Texas. Powell finished his second season with 32 tackles, nine tackles for a loss, six sacks and a forced fumble.

Late in 2011, it seemed like the light bulb finally turned on as Powell showed some of the excellent speed and play-making ability that made him such a sought after recruit. He recorded four sacks in the final six games and was consistently pressuring the quarterback.

There was a lot of excitement for Powell heading into 2012, but the junior tore a knee ligament in spring practice (and received a medical redshirt). Powell may be better off staying for his senior season in 2014 and continue to improve before going pro. However, there have been reports out of Gainesville that suggest Powell could explode this year

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

foreverfan

27 WR ODELL BECKHAM JR.LSU
58 CB STANLEY JEAN- BAPTISTE NEBRASKA
91 C WESTON RICHBURG COLORADO STATE
126 ILB MAX BULLOUGH MICHIGAN STATE
167 RB DRI ARCHER KENT STATE
169 DE BRENT URBAN VIRGINIA
202 TE CROCKETT GILMORE

lee909

Pick one will not be popular but all the top WR were gone and i think that with a year under Colston and Payton he would turn into a monster.

First pick(with trades).

Trade
Minnesota
Sent Round 2 Pick 26 (58)

Received Round 3 Pick 8 (72)
Round 4 Pick 8 (108)

San Diego
Sent Round 5 Pick 29 (169)
Received Round 6 Pick 6 (182) (ATL)
Round 7 Pick 19 (234) (MIA)

Jacksonville
Round 6 Pick 26 (202)

Recieve Round 6 Pick 29 (205)
Round 7 Pick 7 (222)


Carolina
Send Round 6 Pick 29 (205) (JAX)
Rec. Round 6 Pick 31 (207) (DEN)
Round 7 Pick 10 (225)


Round 1 Pick 27: Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
Round 3 Pick 8 (MINN): Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech
Round 3 Pick 27: Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson
Round 4 Pick 8 (MINN): JaWuan James, OT, Tennessee
Round 4 Pick 26: Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State
Round 5 Pick 27: Russell Bodine, OG, North Carolina
Round 6 Pick 6 (ATL): Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
Round 6 Pick 31 (DEN): Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty
Round 7 Pick 7 (JAX): Deandre Coleman, DT, California
Round 7 Pick 10 (CAR): Wesley Johnson, OT, Vanderbilt
Round 7 Pick 19 (MIA): Austin Wentworth, OG, Fresno State

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!

jjasso007

27. DARQUEZE DENNARD - CB - MICHIGAN STATE

58. DONTE MONCRIEF - WR - MISSISSIPPI

91. WESTON RICHBURG - C - COLORADO STATE
- Surprised he was available at this pick, so had to snatch him up!

126. MARCUS ROBERSON - CB - FLORIDA
- another surprise here, so had to pick him up also.

167. DRI ARCHER - RB/KR - KENT STATE

169. HOWARD JONES - OLB - SHEPARD

202. JUSTIN BRITT - OT - MISSOURI
- Was debating between him and WR Kevin Norwood, but figured I'd gamble that Norwood wouldn't be drafted. And he wasn't. Bring Norwood in as a FA stat!

Fanspeak's On the Clock Mock Draft Simulator

jeanpierre

Norwood will be drafted in the fourth round, maybe in the fifth - don't count on picking him up as a free agent; oh, he will be the Kenny Stills of the 2014 draft...

Mocks are fun. Mocks are informative. Mocks are totally useless when the real thing arrives...

lee909

Larry Holders latests 7 rounder

Not bad at all, dont like Thomas personally. I just think he is too small to stay healthy long term.

Larry Holder's projections for the Saints' 2014 draft class:*

Marquise Lee
The Saints need a playmaking wide receiver. Lee made big plays in his first two years of college with Matt Barkley throwing to him Predictably, his numbers fell with a new signal-caller. Lee (6 feet, 192 pounds) could find that same rapport he created with Barkley here in New Orleans with Drew Brees.*

*Jeremiah*Attaochu
The 6-3, 252-pound defender seems like he'd be a perfect fit to bring youth and speed to the Saints' outside linebacker spot. It's hard to question his production with 31 ½ career sacks at Georgia Tech, a school record.

Desir CB
It didn't feel right for me to have the Saints with no small-school players in last week's projections. Desir isn't just a flier, either. He certainly possesses NFL size at 6-1, 198 pounds.

G Trai Turner, Turner (6-3, 310)
could be an NFL starter in his rookie year. So why would the Saints take a starting guard when they have Pro Bowl players Ben Grubbs and Jahri Evans? They could bolster their depth for 2014 then go with Turner as a starter in 2015.

Kevin Norwood
I've seen him play since high school in D'Iberville (Miss.). Tall and lanky (6-2, 198), but his 4.48-second 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine was better than I expected. Plus, the Saints have expressed plenty of interest in Norwood, according to a source I talked to last week.

Bryan Stork
This pick is a no-brainer pick. The Saints need competition at center. Stork (6-4, 315) visited the Saints, so this seems easy to gauge.

DeAnthony Thomas
The Saints don't make a regular habit of drafting running backs, but Thomas could be compete for a Darren Sproles-like role.

"Two receivers to the left, Garcon to the right. Manning in the shotgun, puts Collie in motion. Looks in his direction...it's picked off! It's picked off! It's Tracy Porter again! He's runnin' free! He's gonna go all the way!