you gotta get rid of a big ticket item to fill the draw with many goodies. say 8 mill for graham should just about cover the bill. cut here of last year contract players will pay for a replacement in the draft with change left over to get another all in fun on that one

Franchise Tag = Guaranteed Money

Players is cut/traded, Guaranteed Money = Dead money
2013 Team Dead Money Rankings

nothing is signed so that is the end of dead money, And if a trade was to happen the tag is a mute issue. it would all be handled in the trade for a player like Jimmy. other wise the saints would be the laughing stock of the NFL. Mickey coming out of a deal as big as this looking like a fool? don't think so.


besides i would be amazed if we did anything but get Jimmy all wrapped up. graham is a bargain tagged as a TE. As a WR that is another story. We would have time to decide what we are going to do. so till then dead money is a dead topic when it comes to jimmy

Ignoring the fact that until something is signed you have nothing to trade. Since he has to sign something in order for you to have something to trade, the tag and it's dead money are neither moot or ended.

I'm not sure you understand that dead money can not be traded or moved. It's not yo to Loomis, it's governed by the CBA. His hands are tied.

At the end of every deal or contract is the League. Each and every contract or trade has to be approved by the League office before it is final.

look right now we control his football future that is all. that is all the tag does at this point. he can sign it or we can pull it till the due date

his options in the open market are few and far in between. till he accepts the contract or appeals it we are all just sitting tight. if he appeals we are again sitting tight till the saints decide what they will do.

any ways if a team offers him the same money we are we keep him.

They offer more and picks off he goes if that is what the saints decide to do.

so we keep him or a team pays him more than we are willing to do and forks over the additional picks

If he appeals and wins odds are their will be even fewer teams out there that will go for the 10 mill and picks. so he ends up a saint and we cut players to get under the cap.

Or god for bids the saints decide to pull the tag and let him walk. we will have time to make our minds up if the tag is changed. just like jimmy has time to decide if he going to sign it

i do not see dead money as an issue with jimmy.

You drinking? The dead money reply from me was in response to your original "trade scenario"... Now it seems you've left that out of your synopsis of options.

Until Jimmy signs something with us we have zero to trade. Once he signs something with us there will be dead money if he does somewhere else.

in my silly trade with Houston

Houston calls and says they want Jimmy for the two first.
Saints say ok
whats the next step?
Houston calls and gets a long term contract worked out with Jimmy's agent
Houston, Saints and Jimmy's agent sit down and finalize the trade.
No tag offer sheet needs to signed.

The only thing the tag does now is limit Jimmy's movement it does not prevent him from being traded or search for a team that is willing to met his demands and the high price the saints have placed on him. if he gets the deal he wants and the saints get what they want and the trading partner is happy Jimmy is on the next plane out of town.

Besides why would Jimmy be allowed to collect money from two clubs? In your set up Jimmy cost the saints and the Texans cap hits and he gets to double dip? he get 8 million from us and the first year of his contract from Texans?
or the saints are paying the texans to take him?
or is this creative accounting were the team trading the player is penalized for tagging that player then trading them?

If we cut Jimmy after he signed i see the logic

This is not a trade were we are trying to get a better pick by agreeing to keep the guaranteed money on our cap. in other words sending a player and cash to get better picks ie the Browns. This is a trade were they take the whole hit.

In real life if he signs the TE tag why would we trade him? IMO he is worth more in the next couple years to us in order to get to the super bowl. he is the best thing for Drew right now to get that done.