Quote:"ya think Gates will be a factor?"

CheramieIII · 11-10-2004, 04:29 PM

The Saints are to football what crap is to grass, sometimes nutritous but always stinks.

BlackandBlue · 11-10-2004, 04:39 PM

Be careful what you say about grass, sir!!!!

Danno · 11-10-2004, 04:56 PM

Are you saying you\'ve said Haslett was the MAIN PROBLEM all along?
Now I\'m confused b/c I remember you riding shotgun with Billy and Saintsfan on the Playoff bandwagon this summer. Are now saying you really thought they\'d be this bad because of Haslett.
I\'ll agree with you, but first point me to some post or something where you First made that clear. I\'m curious.

OK Gator, here ya go

http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...=5795#pid30209

POSTED BY DANNO 8-19-04
...here\'s my breakdown,
Problem areas listed from most troubling to least troubling

Def Coordinator/coaches
Head Coach
Offensive Coordinator/coaches
LB (Players)
CB (Players)
O-line (Players)
D-Line (Players)
Special Teams (Coaching)
WR (Players)
QB (Players)
Special Teams (Players)
TE (Players)
RB (Players)

And here\'s another for you...

http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...e=2&orderdate=

POSTED BY DANNO 8-22-04
I think after viewing the 2nd pre-season game its become quite apparent my take on this teams problems is 100% spot on.
Its not the players, or any single unit, its coaching plain and simple.

And if thats not enough...

http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...d&tid=6155#pid

POSTED BY DANNO 9-10-04
But 2004 will decide his future. The talent, depth, and continuity is there so the only way this team fails this year will be because of poor coaching.

THAT TOOK 14 MINUTES OF RESEARCH. PLEASE DON\'T MAKE ME DO THAT AGAIN!

[Edited on 11/11/2004 by Danno]

[Edited on 11/11/2004 by Danno]

BlackandBlue · 11-10-2004, 05:24 PM

Is this going to turn into another slap fest?

WhoDat · 11-10-2004, 06:05 PM

No, but Gator\'s right. I said AB might go to the Pro Bowl this offseason. I think if I were to now say that I was a Brooks supporter all along some people might have a problem with that. Don\'t you think?

I\'m glad Danno has finally seen the light. That\'s more than I can say for some of his compatriots, who as recently as 3 weeks ago or so were posting that they thought Haslett was a good coach and the players were the problem.

Danno · 11-11-2004, 06:29 AM

August huh? Thats as far back as it goes right?
If someone were to do say ....do a bit more research would it be fair to say they would find that you defended Jim Haslett in the Months leading up to August? (the good old days when :niko_saddam: Billy Reigned)

Well I\'m sure if you were to search all my posts (over 1000) I\'m sure you could possibly find a comment or two where I showed support for the staff. Not too many but I\'m sure you could if you really tried.
Fell free big boy. Search away. Try 2001, I\'m sure you can find something there.
I wonder if I could find a post or two from you that says you thought the staff was fine or that certain players were fine or that maybe you thought this team was good, like maybe predicting say.. 10-6 last year?

The fact is you asked for proof that I thought coaching was the MAIN problem.
I go back to before the season starts and find 3 examples.
I\'m no hieroglyphics expert but I think this statement...
\"...its coaching plain and simple.\"
probably means that I think its coaching, plain and simple.

Maybe I should have used a bunch more emoticons!

Oh and WhoDat... I don\'t get the \"finally on board\" coment. You and I have gone back and forth over player issues time and time again. We\'ve seldom disagreed that our coaching sucks.
I have stated and still think this team has a lot of talent. As does about every so-called expert I can think of. I don\'t believe you do.
Most of my disagreement with the moonshiners has been over what LB we didn\'t get or that the CB\'s will be the downfall of this team.
Thats a transparent backside told-you-so. Not gonna let that one slide.

[Edited on 11/11/2004 by Danno]

11-10-2004, 04:29 PM	#21
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Quote:"ya think Gates will be a factor?" The Saints are to football what crap is to grass, sometimes nutritous but always stinks.

11-10-2004, 04:39 PM	#22
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Quote:"ya think Gates will be a factor?" Be careful what you say about grass, sir!!!!

11-10-2004, 04:56 PM	#23
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Quote:"ya think Gates will be a factor?" Are you saying you\'ve said Haslett was the MAIN PROBLEM all along? Now I\'m confused b/c I remember you riding shotgun with Billy and Saintsfan on the Playoff bandwagon this summer. Are now saying you really thought they\'d be this bad because of Haslett. I\'ll agree with you, but first point me to some post or something where you First made that clear. I\'m curious. OK Gator, here ya go http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...=5795#pid30209 POSTED BY DANNO 8-19-04 ...here\'s my breakdown, Problem areas listed from most troubling to least troubling Def Coordinator/coaches Head Coach Offensive Coordinator/coaches LB (Players) CB (Players) O-line (Players) D-Line (Players) Special Teams (Coaching) WR (Players) QB (Players) Special Teams (Players) TE (Players) RB (Players) And here\'s another for you... http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...e=2&orderdate= POSTED BY DANNO 8-22-04 I think after viewing the 2nd pre-season game its become quite apparent my take on this teams problems is 100% spot on. Its not the players, or any single unit, its coaching plain and simple. And if thats not enough... http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...d&tid=6155#pid POSTED BY DANNO 9-10-04 But 2004 will decide his future. The talent, depth, and continuity is there so the only way this team fails this year will be because of poor coaching. THAT TOOK 14 MINUTES OF RESEARCH. PLEASE DON\'T MAKE ME DO THAT AGAIN! [Edited on 11/11/2004 by Danno] [Edited on 11/11/2004 by Danno]

11-10-2004, 05:24 PM	#24
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Quote:"ya think Gates will be a factor?" Is this going to turn into another slap fest?

11-10-2004, 06:05 PM	#25
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Quote:"ya think Gates will be a factor?" No, but Gator\'s right. I said AB might go to the Pro Bowl this offseason. I think if I were to now say that I was a Brooks supporter all along some people might have a problem with that. Don\'t you think? I\'m glad Danno has finally seen the light. That\'s more than I can say for some of his compatriots, who as recently as 3 weeks ago or so were posting that they thought Haslett was a good coach and the players were the problem.
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11-11-2004, 06:29 AM	#26
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Quote:"ya think Gates will be a factor?" August huh? Thats as far back as it goes right? If someone were to do say ....do a bit more research would it be fair to say they would find that you defended Jim Haslett in the Months leading up to August? (the good old days when :niko_saddam: Billy Reigned) Well I\'m sure if you were to search all my posts (over 1000) I\'m sure you could possibly find a comment or two where I showed support for the staff. Not too many but I\'m sure you could if you really tried. Fell free big boy. Search away. Try 2001, I\'m sure you can find something there. I wonder if I could find a post or two from you that says you thought the staff was fine or that certain players were fine or that maybe you thought this team was good, like maybe predicting say.. 10-6 last year? The fact is you asked for proof that I thought coaching was the MAIN problem. I go back to before the season starts and find 3 examples. I\'m no hieroglyphics expert but I think this statement... \"...its coaching plain and simple.\" probably means that I think its coaching, plain and simple. Maybe I should have used a bunch more emoticons! Oh and WhoDat... I don\'t get the \"finally on board\" coment. You and I have gone back and forth over player issues time and time again. We\'ve seldom disagreed that our coaching sucks. I have stated and still think this team has a lot of talent. As does about every so-called expert I can think of. I don\'t believe you do. Most of my disagreement with the moonshiners has been over what LB we didn\'t get or that the CB\'s will be the downfall of this team. Thats a transparent backside told-you-so. Not gonna let that one slide. [Edited on 11/11/2004 by Danno]