Brees due for a road performance like he does in 'Dome?

Utah_Saint · 01-09-2014, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I respectfully disagree about the Brees turnovers. Any time any team turns the ball over(int. or fumble) it takes the ball out of our hands and gives them the ball to try to score. Our D has bailed Brees out a few times this season, it seems like his int.'s have come at the worst times. Until I see the old Brees light fire I'm going to worry about this Brees who tries to force things there that just are not there.

I agree except for the "old Brees" part. I don't think there ever has been a time when Brees didn't throw picks. He throws them all the time, he always has. He takes a lot of chances and tries to put the ball in really tight places and sometimes he throws some real headscrachers like "who the heck was he throwing to?". But he also makes some amazing passes, throws that look impossible, hitting the perfect spot behind a defender from 40 yards downfield or hitting a receiver on a crossing pattern in stride, right in the hands.

With Drew, you gotta take the good with the bad. I've never heard the press refer to him as a "gunslinger" but that's what he is. Sometimes he costs us a game, some years a couple in the season, but he also wins us a LOT more games. He takes chances and competes as hard as any QB I've ever watched. From this fans perspective, I can't think of anybody I'd rather have on my team.

pherein · 01-09-2014, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I agree except for the "old Brees" part. I don't think there ever has been a time when Brees didn't throw picks. He throws them all the time, he always has. He takes a lot of chances and tries to put the ball in really tight places and sometimes he throws some real headscrachers like "who the heck was he throwing to?". But he also makes some amazing passes, throws that look impossible, hitting the perfect spot behind a defender from 40 yards downfield or hitting a receiver on a crossing pattern in stride, right in the hands.

With Drew, you gotta take the good with the bad. I've never heard the press refer to him as a "gunslinger" but that's what he is. Sometimes he costs us a game, some years a couple in the season, but he also wins us a LOT more games. He takes chances and competes as hard as any QB I've ever watched. From this fans perspective, I can't think of anybody I'd rather have on my team.

I kind of agree with you. AP fumbles a lot, but that comes with hard running. Brees throws interceptions because he threads the needle. But I also agree with Hallow. This is not the Brees of old on the road that used to put up 30pts,even with ints, to win the game and bail the defense out.
Medias been messing this up for some time now. The offense usually has no problems on the road, its the defense that has been falling apart for 7 years.
But this year Brees , and yes the offense , have been stopped, turnovers, or faling apart on the road, and the defense has saved them.
I was shocked when Brees missed a pass before. I can almost count them hes so dang accurate. Amazing really, but for some reason now I get worried when our offense is in an Brees is throwing. I dont know what it is.

Utah_Saint · 01-09-2014, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

I kind of agree with you. AP fumbles a lot, but that comes with hard running. Brees throws interceptions because he threads the needle. But I also agree with Hallow. This is not the Brees of old on the road that used to put up 30pts,even with ints, to win the game and bail the defense out.
Medias been messing this up for some time now. The offense usually has no problems on the road, its the defense that has been falling apart for 7 years.
But this year Brees , and yes the offense , have been stopped, turnovers, or faling apart on the road, and the defense has saved them.
I was shocked when Brees missed a pass before. I can almost count them hes so dang accurate. Amazing really, but for some reason now I get worried when our offense is in an Brees is throwing. I dont know what it is.

That's true but I chalk some of that up to the teams we've had to play on the road this season. We've played some particularly tough defenses, and specifically some really tough front 7s.

The Jets have a great front 7. Tampa has a ton of talent in their front 7 even if they're not well coached. Carolina probably has the best front 7 in football. The Rams have an amazing d-line even if the rest of the defense is meh.

And then there's the Patriots, they may not have a particularly talented D but Belichick is still one of the best defensive minds in football and always has his defenses playing above their heads. And of course, the Seahawks with the #1 overall defense and the best pass coverage in the league this
year.

Just my opinion but when you factor all that in, I believe the Saints 3-5 "road woes" have been blown out of proportion for the purposes of media drama. I think the offensive troubles this year have more to do with who we've played than anything else.

01-09-2014, 06:47 PM	#2
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees due for a road performance like he does in 'Dome? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I agree except for the "old Brees" part. I don't think there ever has been a time when Brees didn't throw picks. He throws them all the time, he always has. He takes a lot of chances and tries to put the ball in really tight places and sometimes he throws some real headscrachers like "who the heck was he throwing to?". But he also makes some amazing passes, throws that look impossible, hitting the perfect spot behind a defender from 40 yards downfield or hitting a receiver on a crossing pattern in stride, right in the hands. With Drew, you gotta take the good with the bad. I've never heard the press refer to him as a "gunslinger" but that's what he is. Sometimes he costs us a game, some years a couple in the season, but he also wins us a LOT more games. He takes chances and competes as hard as any QB I've ever watched. From this fans perspective, I can't think of anybody I'd rather have on my team. I kind of agree with you. AP fumbles a lot, but that comes with hard running. Brees throws interceptions because he threads the needle. But I also agree with Hallow. This is not the Brees of old on the road that used to put up 30pts,even with ints, to win the game and bail the defense out. Medias been messing this up for some time now. The offense usually has no problems on the road, its the defense that has been falling apart for 7 years. But this year Brees , and yes the offense , have been stopped, turnovers, or faling apart on the road, and the defense has saved them. I was shocked when Brees missed a pass before. I can almost count them hes so dang accurate. Amazing really, but for some reason now I get worried when our offense is in an Brees is throwing. I dont know what it is. Utah_Saint likes this.
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01-09-2014, 08:27 PM	#3
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Brees due for a road performance like he does in 'Dome? Originally Posted by pherein I kind of agree with you. AP fumbles a lot, but that comes with hard running. Brees throws interceptions because he threads the needle. But I also agree with Hallow. This is not the Brees of old on the road that used to put up 30pts,even with ints, to win the game and bail the defense out. Medias been messing this up for some time now. The offense usually has no problems on the road, its the defense that has been falling apart for 7 years. But this year Brees , and yes the offense , have been stopped, turnovers, or faling apart on the road, and the defense has saved them. I was shocked when Brees missed a pass before. I can almost count them hes so dang accurate. Amazing really, but for some reason now I get worried when our offense is in an Brees is throwing. I dont know what it is. That's true but I chalk some of that up to the teams we've had to play on the road this season. We've played some particularly tough defenses, and specifically some really tough front 7s. The Jets have a great front 7. Tampa has a ton of talent in their front 7 even if they're not well coached. Carolina probably has the best front 7 in football. The Rams have an amazing d-line even if the rest of the defense is meh. And then there's the Patriots, they may not have a particularly talented D but Belichick is still one of the best defensive minds in football and always has his defenses playing above their heads. And of course, the Seahawks with the #1 overall defense and the best pass coverage in the league this year. Just my opinion but when you factor all that in, I believe the Saints 3-5 "road woes" have been blown out of proportion for the purposes of media drama. I think the offensive troubles this year have more to do with who we've played than anything else.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Brees due for a road performance like he does in 'Dome? Originally Posted by halloween 65 I respectfully disagree about the Brees turnovers. Any time any team turns the ball over(int. or fumble) it takes the ball out of our hands and gives them the ball to try to score. Our D has bailed Brees out a few times this season, it seems like his int.'s have come at the worst times. Until I see the old Brees light fire I'm going to worry about this Brees who tries to force things there that just are not there. I agree except for the "old Brees" part. I don't think there ever has been a time when Brees didn't throw picks. He throws them all the time, he always has. He takes a lot of chances and tries to put the ball in really tight places and sometimes he throws some real headscrachers like "who the heck was he throwing to?". But he also makes some amazing passes, throws that look impossible, hitting the perfect spot behind a defender from 40 yards downfield or hitting a receiver on a crossing pattern in stride, right in the hands. With Drew, you gotta take the good with the bad. I've never heard the press refer to him as a "gunslinger" but that's what he is. Sometimes he costs us a game, some years a couple in the season, but he also wins us a LOT more games. He takes chances and competes as hard as any QB I've ever watched. From this fans perspective, I can't think of anybody I'd rather have on my team. pherein and CoreyO like this.