The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it

JayHawk777 · 01-11-2014, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Yeah, I hope the winds die down. That could seriously limit the long ball.

Brees is going to be doing even more checkdowns than his close to 10-11 per game. He's #19 in yards per completion because of the short dump offs.

We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch.

How will that play out if there's wind gusts? I doubt Brees will be going downfield too often unless it's a "throw it in the vicinity of Graham who has a height advantage."

I give the QB edge to RWilson. He's always a threat to take off with the rock, has Houdiniesque escapability and with the big mitts and high release, can pierce the winds much better than Brees.

You won't find many games where you'd take another QB over Brees but given the supposed conditions of today's game, the nod has to go to RWilson for the above reasons.

If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking Hawk pom poms and wearing Green/Blue shaded lenses.

That's not how I roll.

|Mitch| · 01-11-2014, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by JayHawk777

We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch.

Considering we led the league in 20+ yard plays this season, I'll take our cannon-less QB... Just depends on what direction the wind is coming from

iceshack149 · 01-11-2014, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by JayHawk777

I give the QB edge to RWilson. He's always a threat to take off with the rock, has Houdiniesque escapability and with the big mitts and high release, can pierce the winds much better than Brees.

You won't find many games where you'd take another QB over Brees but given the supposed conditions of today's game, the nod has to go to RWilson for the above reasons.

If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking Hawk pom poms and wearing Green/Blue shaded lenses.

That's not how I roll.

Of course that's how you roll. That's why you're here.
You're taking the second year QB that hasn't even been in an NFCCG over the seasoned Superbowl winner that breaks records every year.

Utah_Saint · 01-11-2014, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by JayHawk777

Brees is going to be doing even more checkdowns than his close to 10-11 per game. He's #19 in yards per completion because of the short dump offs.

We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch.

Ummm... Yeah....

In 2013 the Saints (Drew) was 3rd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 2nd in attempts over 40 yards

NFL Stats: by Team Category

In 2012 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards

NFL Stats: by Team Category

In 2011 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

I'll let you look up his completion percentage over 20 yards. Most years it's the best in the NFL.

Pretty good for a "finesse" passer, huh?

(You really might want to look this stuff up before you post. It's pretty easy to find.)

JayHawk777 · 01-11-2014, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Ummm... Yeah....

In 2013 the Saints (Drew) was 3rd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 2nd in attempts over 40 yards

NFL Stats: by Team Category

In 2012 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards

NFL Stats: by Team Category

In 2011 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards.

NFL Stats: by Team Category

I'll let you look up his completing percentage over 20 yards. Most years it's the best in the NFL.

Pretty good for a "finesse" passer, huh?

(You really might want to look this stuff up before you post. It's pretty easy to find.)

Either I wasn't clear, ya'll are a bit defensive or didn't have quality reading comprehension.

I am NOT talking about Brees completing quality touch and finesse passes in the confines of a 70 degree dome.

We're discussing windy conditions where Brees' lack of velocity could be a detriment and thus, more checkdowns.

I pull that 2011 link for verification and you may want to re-evaluate.

Brees was tied for 3rd in 20+. They are completions, not attempts. Ne had 72, GB had 70, SD had 69, Saints had 69. You were way off on 40+. He didnt have #3..... NYG had 18, Det 16, Gb 16, zona 15, Ne 14, Oak 14, Ten 14, Cincy 11, texans 11, dallas 11, saints 11. 3rd? cmon!

Besides, you should really calculate as a percentage of attempts where brees has 650+ avg over past 4 years.

How do you explain being #19 in yds per completion THIS year?

In conclusion, this is about todays wind oriented game, not the dome. It's not a put down to call brees a finesse passer with great touch. He moves defenders well with his eyes.

He doesn't have a cannon. Cmon now.

If you're going to quote stats please quote correctly and understand that it's not always about totals, but %

Utah_Saint · 01-11-2014, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by JayHawk777

Either I wasn't clear, ya'll are a bit defensive or didn't have quality reading comprehension.

Oh, changing the subject, didn't see that comin.

Not only are you coming off as a blind homer, it looks like you're trolling.

You should take this to the Ultimate Smack Talk! section of the forums.

Ultimate Smack Talk! - New Orleans Saints - blackandgold.com

WHODATINCA · 01-11-2014, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by JayHawk777

If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking ....

Oh really? Well, what are you doin' here then? I'll give you a hint, one of two things: 1) Makin' yourself feel better about your team's chances today and 2) just tryin' to start some sh*t -- because you don't feel very good about your team's chances today.

Yeah, fearless and noble........ that's how you troll.

|Mitch| · 01-11-2014, 02:18 PM

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01-11-2014, 12:34 PM	#1
JayHawk777 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 11	Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Yeah, I hope the winds die down. That could seriously limit the long ball. Brees is going to be doing even more checkdowns than his close to 10-11 per game. He's #19 in yards per completion because of the short dump offs. We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch. How will that play out if there's wind gusts? I doubt Brees will be going downfield too often unless it's a "throw it in the vicinity of Graham who has a height advantage." I give the QB edge to RWilson. He's always a threat to take off with the rock, has Houdiniesque escapability and with the big mitts and high release, can pierce the winds much better than Brees. You won't find many games where you'd take another QB over Brees but given the supposed conditions of today's game, the nod has to go to RWilson for the above reasons. If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking Hawk pom poms and wearing Green/Blue shaded lenses. That's not how I roll.
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01-11-2014, 12:43 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it Originally Posted by JayHawk777 We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch. Considering we led the league in 20+ yard plays this season, I'll take our cannon-less QB... Just depends on what direction the wind is coming from

01-11-2014, 12:58 PM	#4
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it Originally Posted by JayHawk777 Brees is going to be doing even more checkdowns than his close to 10-11 per game. He's #19 in yards per completion because of the short dump offs. We all know Brees doesn't have a cannon but is more of a timing and finesse passer with great touch. Ummm... Yeah.... In 2013 the Saints (Drew) was 3rd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 2nd in attempts over 40 yards NFL Stats: by Team Category In 2012 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards NFL Stats: by Team Category In 2011 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards. NFL Stats: by Team Category I'll let you look up his completion percentage over 20 yards. Most years it's the best in the NFL. Pretty good for a "finesse" passer, huh? (You really might want to look this stuff up before you post. It's pretty easy to find.)

01-11-2014, 02:01 PM	#5
JayHawk777 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 11	Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Ummm... Yeah.... In 2013 the Saints (Drew) was 3rd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 2nd in attempts over 40 yards NFL Stats: by Team Category In 2012 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards NFL Stats: by Team Category In 2011 the Saints (Drew) was 2nd in the NFL in passing attempts over 20 yards and 3rd in attempts over 40 yards. NFL Stats: by Team Category I'll let you look up his completing percentage over 20 yards. Most years it's the best in the NFL. Pretty good for a "finesse" passer, huh? (You really might want to look this stuff up before you post. It's pretty easy to find.) Either I wasn't clear, ya'll are a bit defensive or didn't have quality reading comprehension. I am NOT talking about Brees completing quality touch and finesse passes in the confines of a 70 degree dome. We're discussing windy conditions where Brees' lack of velocity could be a detriment and thus, more checkdowns. I pull that 2011 link for verification and you may want to re-evaluate. Brees was tied for 3rd in 20+. They are completions, not attempts. Ne had 72, GB had 70, SD had 69, Saints had 69. You were way off on 40+. He didnt have #3..... NYG had 18, Det 16, Gb 16, zona 15, Ne 14, Oak 14, Ten 14, Cincy 11, texans 11, dallas 11, saints 11. 3rd? cmon! Besides, you should really calculate as a percentage of attempts where brees has 650+ avg over past 4 years. How do you explain being #19 in yds per completion THIS year? In conclusion, this is about todays wind oriented game, not the dome. It's not a put down to call brees a finesse passer with great touch. He moves defenders well with his eyes. He doesn't have a cannon. Cmon now. If you're going to quote stats please quote correctly and understand that it's not always about totals, but %
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01-11-2014, 02:19 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it Originally Posted by JayHawk777 Either I wasn't clear, ya'll are a bit defensive or didn't have quality reading comprehension. Oh, changing the subject, didn't see that comin. Not only are you coming off as a blind homer, it looks like you're trolling. You should take this to the Ultimate Smack Talk! section of the forums. Ultimate Smack Talk! - New Orleans Saints - blackandgold.com

01-11-2014, 12:51 PM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,406 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it Originally Posted by JayHawk777 I give the QB edge to RWilson. He's always a threat to take off with the rock, has Houdiniesque escapability and with the big mitts and high release, can pierce the winds much better than Brees. You won't find many games where you'd take another QB over Brees but given the supposed conditions of today's game, the nod has to go to RWilson for the above reasons. If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking Hawk pom poms and wearing Green/Blue shaded lenses. That's not how I roll. Of course that's how you roll. That's why you're here. You're taking the second year QB that hasn't even been in an NFCCG over the seasoned Superbowl winner that breaks records every year.

01-11-2014, 02:16 PM	#7
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: The fact that Seattle is expecting us to run the ball and preparing for it Originally Posted by JayHawk777 If you think about it critically, you'll realize I'm not typing while shaking .... Oh really? Well, what are you doin' here then? I'll give you a hint, one of two things: 1) Makin' yourself feel better about your team's chances today and 2) just tryin' to start some sh*t -- because you don't feel very good about your team's chances today. Yeah, fearless and noble........ that's how you troll.

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