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[WhoDat!656]

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Someone slap some sense into this man.. if they win it we would never hear the end of it.

Never going to hear the end of it anyway, especially if they beat the 39ers.

If I am going to hear non-sensical drivel about a team, I would rather it be a team in OUR division than the 40-whiners or PEDhawks

[WHODATINCA]

Now, I'm starting to hear some sense on this thread. If you notice, the Pats overcame injuries this year, developed a run game, Tom Brady just won against Indie with 13 completions. So, QB play is not the deal maker or deal breaker in the playoffs.

[NoZone504]

He's a receiver in a tight ends body..The post up routes didn't work..not bball...How they use him makes him look soft but he's far from soft..I've seen Jimmy take some mean hits and keep trucking

[rezburna]

He alligator arms more catches then a little bit. Bouncing off a couple tackles doesn't make him hard. He's not making a TRUE effort to truck people. The only time you really see him fight is if he's close to the end zone. Almost everytime Brees has thrown a pick this year guess who he's targeting? Yep. Jimmy "6 foot 8 but won't fight for the ball or bat it down" Graham. How the hell are you letting Earl Thomas run through you? You can't box him out? Why can't you get off the line on cornerbacks? Much less safeties and linebackers? How come we can't win jump ball fades with you in the back of the end zone?

Now I think Jimmy Graham is a great player. But as long as he's the Saints primary weapon we have a problem. Colston isn't a true number 1 anymore, and the fact that he's slow and always has been is catching up with him since he's getting older. Lance Moore has random outbreaks of his old self. Stills is under utilized. Sproles can walk. He's almost 30 and losing speed and quickness by the day. It's pretty much time to revamp this whole offense, turn Jimmy Graham into the 2nd or 3rd option, and fine a true #1 receiver and people with toughness, speed, and who can beat the press. I always felt like we were and overall slow team at every position across the board.

[Donuts32]

I don't know what's soft about playing with a partial tear in your foot. He was playing damn good football before that injury. I will say is that we over use him way too much. We need to find a TE in the draft that compliments him because Josh Hill is not the answer.

[RailBoss]

Is our main man still dating Skylene Montgomery? Maybe it was Beth that was going over the playbook!

[rezburna]

Jimmy Graham isn't the only guy in the NFL playing hurt. He isn't even the only guy on the Saints playing with a boo boo. I guarantee he'll still want top dollar next year for this ****ty ass playoff performance. Everytime we faced a top opponent they took him out the game. He doesn't like physicality. Whining about all those clean plays Earl Thomas made on him. Come back and attack the ball if you want the catch that bad.

Soft.

[saintfan]

He's not soft. That's just silly. He still has a thing or three to learn about playing the TE position - and WR position too for that matter.

But uh, no. He's not soft.

[RailBoss]

Yes it brings more focus on the NFC South including the special scheduled games. Carolina doesn't bother me or even the Bucs,
however Atlanta no way in Hell !

[neugey]

I wouldn't say so soft. But I will say he has to show more consistency before he can be called the best tight end in the game. He's not there yet, that honor has to go to Gronk or Witten.