The official ***** and moan thread

[Danno]

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Cause he's 34. In three years he'll be 37. That's pretty old for a football player.

I hope he'll be around longer but who knows.

Manning and Brady are 36, 37, and they look to have a few more years left easily.

Does Brees age faster than those two?

[spkb25]

No *****ing and moaning from me. I like this team and I think we are even better next season. We have a good defense and I feel like we will be even better next year.

I thought the refs allowed a lot of BS from their CB's and Safeties. Can't stand that BS.

We have a good team and I am pumped for next year. Oline will be better next season too. If our D is as closed to as good next season as this and we sure up that Oline, look out man, look out

[Mr.Riaton]

Favre was 40 and had a good year-allthe way to the NFCC game and almost won it.

[LivnaLieTimay]

Some of the things in this thread are ridiculous. This game, like most playoff games came down to a few moments and Seattle won them all. I look at the 1 turnover in the game and Seattle turned that into a TD. I also look at the 2 shanked punts (1 from each team) which are like turnovers. Seattle got a FG on our shanked punt, we failed to convert on a 4th down and came away with 0 points. You look at those 3 moments where momentum was up for grabs and Seattle got the job done. We were right there with the top seed on the road and had our chances, just couldn't convert.

We have a lot to look forward to and there's no need to blow this team up. You guys know there's 31 other teams that would be lining up for Jimmy Graham if we didn't resign him. Drew Brees is a top 5 QB with plenty of good years ahead of him. On defense we have some great young players like Lewis, Hicks, Jordan, Galette and Vaccaro to build around.

This years draft I'd really like to see us draft a playmaking LB/S/CB in the first round who can force some turnovers because that was the biggest weakness of our defense. If we don't go this route then I'd like to see us grab a big, physical WR like Kelvin Benjamin (who is expected to go right around where we pick). The NFL seems to be allowing DB's to be a little more physical and a guy like Benjamin has the potential to get off those bumps and make some plays. This is important because a lot of teams that are going to be good in the NFC for the next few years (SF, Seattle, Carolina) are physical teams and our receivers aren't great at against these press corners.

Look, I'm bummed that the season is over. I knew the odds were against us winning 3 in a row on the road but I kept hope. Didn't work out this year but it should give us plenty of motivation going forward. Who Dat!

[Exxcalibur]

Man, how did we lose to Car? /hangs head

[lsusaint912]

Originally Posted by Exxcalibur

Man, how did we lose to Car? /hangs head

I know right?? Well the last game i can tell you why.. Our offense struggled corey white got beat on an out route, but on this forum people blame malcom jenkins for the missed sack.. Which i guess he should have got..me personally blame corey white.. Ok saints fans let me have it lol jk

[lsusaint912]

Originally Posted by lsusaint912

I know right?? Well the last game i can tell you why.. Our offense struggled corey white got beat on an out route, but on this forum people blame malcom jenkins for the missed sack.. Which i guess he should have got..me personally blame corey white.. Ok saints fans let me have it lol jk

Let me take that blame off corey white even though he did get beat i blame our offense.. Can ya belive that we have offense problems for the first time since 2006 and now we praise our d.. But i love it and hate it.. If we had the same offense too go together with this defense.. Superbowl hands down.. Now we had to watch the panthers stink up the joint, but if it was us we would have got to the superbowl

[Halo]

Originally Posted by lsusaint912

Let me take that blame off corey white even though he did get beat i blame our offense.. Can ya belive that we have offense problems for the first time since 2006 and now we praise our d.. But i love it

I think this was the root of frustration with the fan base. Defense did what so many, myself included, asked - deliver a top 10.... to 15 (at least) defense. I long said if we had a defense ranked 15 or above overall we would march to the super bowl. 2009 was similar with extremely high take-aways.

So defense showed up in '13..... and the offense SUCKED wind! Saints fans are trained to expect a shoot-out on offense and hope the defense can slow the opponent down. Exactly what happened in '09-10 superbowl season. Collectively as Saints fans, we do not have the palette to appreciate a defense. We wait for the offense to come onto the field of play, so the frustrations run with our offense.

Our defense was stingy, even after losing greer and vaccarro. Or d-line started to get nasty. Best top 4 defense to never get "named" in the NFL. We just don't know how to take it with an impotent offense. Dome Patrol era, the offense was a wet rag - everyone waited for the defense to come on the field. People would go get beers or nachos when the offense was on the field. Now we're trained for the opposite and we don't appreciate what our defense accomplished this season.

[WHODATINCA]

Originally Posted by Halo

So defense showed up in '13..... and the offense SUCKED wind! .... Collectively as Saints fans, we do not have the palette to appreciate a defense.

Now we're trained for the opposite and we don't appreciate what our defense accomplished this season.

I have the palette. Our defense MADE THE SEASON FOR US. The offense? They showed up in the dome.

[Utah_Saint]

Originally Posted by Halo

I think this was the root of frustration with the fan base. Defense did what so many, myself included, asked - deliver a top 10.... to 15 (at least) defense. I long said if we had a defense ranked 15 or above overall we would march to the super bowl. 2009 was similar with extremely high take-aways.

So defense showed up in '13..... and the offense SUCKED wind! Saints fans are trained to expect a shoot-out on offense and hope the defense can slow the opponent down. Exactly what happened in '09-10 superbowl season. Collectively as Saints fans, we do not have the palette to appreciate a defense. We wait for the offense to come onto the field of play, so the frustrations run with our offense.

Our defense was stingy, even after losing greer and vaccarro. Or d-line started to get nasty. Best top 4 defense to never get "named" in the NFL. We just don't know how to take it with an impotent offense. Dome Patrol era, the offense was a wet rag - everyone waited for the defense to come on the field. People would go get beers or nachos when the offense was on the field. Now we're trained for the opposite and we don't appreciate what our defense accomplished this season.

Number 4 in total offensive yards and number 10 in points scored = "Sucked Wind" and "impotent"?

That's a pretty high standard.