The official ***** and moan thread

[Danno]

Originally Posted by C17-BING

I don't place the blame solely on Drew, but I think we could all agree that he IS the leader of the team. When we do well he gets most of the credit, so when we play terrible --- he gets most the blame. It is what it is ... It's a QB league.

That being said, when would it be a good idea to draft our "Aaron Rodgers?" I'm curious since many of you think Drew will play forever.

You have to admit on the Drew scale, this was pretty weak. I'm sure he'd be the 1st to tell you that.

Drew still has 5 productive years left in this league. He's set up nicely to restructure in 2015 for a reasonably priced QB with the skills to get us to the Superbowl.

Had we gotten the 2 seed I have no doubt we'd be playing next week.

[saintsfan1976]

Drew is a pure pocket passer. And when he has time, he'll slice and dice ANY defense.

I expect particular attention will be paid there this offseason.

BUT -

How about our damn DEFENSE!!??

Is anyone else as excited as I am? We've got some STUDS!!

[iceshack149]

Originally Posted by blackangold

I am ready for a new era of QB for the Saints... yes I know Brees has been great for us, but for some reason I grow tired of him.

There's a lot of silly in this thread but this is the silliest. If you knew what the Saints had at QB throughout it's history you couldn't possibly say this.

The "Jimmy's soft" and "Payton shouldn't be calling plays" stuff is pretty dopey too. The Saints are one of the best teams in the NFL and some of the fans want to get rid of their best contributors.

Just like any team, the Saints have weaknesses. But a year after the commissioner takes draft picks, takes away the Head Coach, suspends the GM for half the season, and generally messes with the team as a whole, the Saints have a solid team.

I'm disappointed that they lost to Seattle of all teams but I'm not about to give up on the team's strongest attributes.

[lsusaint912]

I loved r defense with the injuries we had, and still held it together our offense was ranked high but mistly cause of when we played at home.. Our defense stayed on the field for way too long our offense would get off the field fast in some games..Rob ryan did one hell of a job.. Sean payton is a top coach but in some games his play calling was a nightmare.. We had many chances to put our self in good postions in regular season,and we failed 2.. Nobodys fault but r own.. Who dat!!! Next year just wait and see how good rob ryans defense will be

[Lifer]

A very good season with Payton back.

Massive improvement on defense under Ryan. We really have something to build on!

Our downfall was losing to Jets and Rams and not winning the NFC South title securing #2 seed and home field for the playoffs. Never should have lost to those teams. 2013 Saints are good but not good enough to get to the Super bowl playing on the road.

Seattle is a very good team. They beat us. Congrats to them. We needed to play our best game of the year to win and we didn't.

One gripe...we call too many screen passes. We killed a number of drives in the Seattle game with failed screen passes. The screen is a deception play. You don't deceive anyone when you are predictable.

We have probably two, max three more years to win another Super Bowl in the Brees era. It can be done! Who Dat?!

[Danno]

Originally Posted by Lifer

A very good season with Payton back.

Massive improvement on defense under Ryan. We really have something to build on!

Our downfall was losing to Jets and Rams and not winning the NFC South title securing #2 seed and home field for the playoffs. Never should have lost to those teams. 2013 Saints are good but not good enough to get to the Super bowl playing on the road.

Seattle is a very good team. They beat us. Congrats to them. We needed to play our best game of the year to win and we didn't.

One gripe...we call too many screen passes. We killed a number of drives in the Seattle game with failed screen passes. The screen is a deception play. You don't deceive anyone when you are predictable.

We have probably two, max three more years to win another Super Bowl in the Brees era. It can be done! Who Dat?!

Why do you (and some others) continue to say that?

[spkb25]

No *****ing and moaning from me. I like this team and I think we are even better next season. We have a good defense and I feel like we will be even better next year.

I thought the refs allowed a lot of BS from their CB's and Safeties. Can't stand that BS.

We have a good team and I am pumped for next year. Oline will be better next season too. If our D is as closed to as good next season as this and we sure up that Oline, look out man, look out

[Utah_Saint]

Originally Posted by Danno

Why do you (and some others) continue to say that?

Cause he's 34. In three years he'll be 37. That's pretty old for a football player.

I hope he'll be around longer but who knows.

[Danno]

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Cause he's 34. In three years he'll be 37. That's pretty old for a football player.

I hope he'll be around longer but who knows.

Manning and Brady are 36, 37, and they look to have a few more years left easily.

Does Brees age faster than those two?

[Mr.Riaton]

Favre was 40 and had a good year-allthe way to the NFCC game and almost won it.