The official ***** and moan thread

[Utah_Saint]

Originally Posted by Danno

Manning and Brady are 36, 37, and they look to have a few more years left easily.

Does Brees age faster than those two?

Personally, I think with Drew's training regimine, will be able to play longer than Farve did, if he wants to.

But you can't really blame anyone for assuming a 37 year old QB would retire when his contract is up.

[saintsfan1976]

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

But you can't really blame anyone for assuming a 37 year old QB would retire when his contract is up.

Well, not if you don't give him enough protection.

[LivnaLieTimay]

Some of the things in this thread are ridiculous. This game, like most playoff games came down to a few moments and Seattle won them all. I look at the 1 turnover in the game and Seattle turned that into a TD. I also look at the 2 shanked punts (1 from each team) which are like turnovers. Seattle got a FG on our shanked punt, we failed to convert on a 4th down and came away with 0 points. You look at those 3 moments where momentum was up for grabs and Seattle got the job done. We were right there with the top seed on the road and had our chances, just couldn't convert.

We have a lot to look forward to and there's no need to blow this team up. You guys know there's 31 other teams that would be lining up for Jimmy Graham if we didn't resign him. Drew Brees is a top 5 QB with plenty of good years ahead of him. On defense we have some great young players like Lewis, Hicks, Jordan, Galette and Vaccaro to build around.

This years draft I'd really like to see us draft a playmaking LB/S/CB in the first round who can force some turnovers because that was the biggest weakness of our defense. If we don't go this route then I'd like to see us grab a big, physical WR like Kelvin Benjamin (who is expected to go right around where we pick). The NFL seems to be allowing DB's to be a little more physical and a guy like Benjamin has the potential to get off those bumps and make some plays. This is important because a lot of teams that are going to be good in the NFC for the next few years (SF, Seattle, Carolina) are physical teams and our receivers aren't great at against these press corners.

Look, I'm bummed that the season is over. I knew the odds were against us winning 3 in a row on the road but I kept hope. Didn't work out this year but it should give us plenty of motivation going forward. Who Dat!

[Utah_Saint]

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Well, not if you don't give him enough protection.

Very true. And I'd even take it another step and say how whole team is playing will be a factor as well. If he's 37 on a Super Bowl caliber team, that's gonna factor in his decision to come back as well.

[Exxcalibur]

Man, how did we lose to Car? /hangs head

[lsusaint912]

Originally Posted by Exxcalibur

Man, how did we lose to Car? /hangs head

I know right?? Well the last game i can tell you why.. Our offense struggled corey white got beat on an out route, but on this forum people blame malcom jenkins for the missed sack.. Which i guess he should have got..me personally blame corey white.. Ok saints fans let me have it lol jk

[Halo]

Originally Posted by Exxcalibur

Man, how did we lose to Car? /hangs head

It's real simple, exactly like yesterday our offense did NOT execute and get the job done.
In the Carolina game sCam Newton had 1 completion in the second half that broke our backs. The Panthers then got a short pass for TD just after. We contained them the entire half, but turnovers, missed opportunities on 3rd down, stalled drives, dropped balls and poor execution on offense lost us that game.

No different yesterday. We had Seattle on the run in the second half and had the ball, but forced to play field possession game only because the offense was simply not able to execute. If any points were given away, we gave away 7 points on 1 turnover. All of it proved to be too much.

I seriously cannot blame the defense for anything this season. A complete turnaround if you ask me. We have a talent laced offense that was unable to get the job done. Even when the o-line gave Brees 10 seconds to pass, wide receivers were simply NOT open.

I would cut the fat at ALL receiver positions and cut costs against salary cap there first, then bring in kids who want to fight for catching the football (like our current receivers did before they got paid big time), and finally beef up the NEWLY improved o-line. Brady is going to the AFC championship with a beefy o-line and NO-NAME kids and journeymen at wide receiver. We need to follow this model.

[lsusaint912]

Originally Posted by lsusaint912

I know right?? Well the last game i can tell you why.. Our offense struggled corey white got beat on an out route, but on this forum people blame malcom jenkins for the missed sack.. Which i guess he should have got..me personally blame corey white.. Ok saints fans let me have it lol jk

Let me take that blame off corey white even though he did get beat i blame our offense.. Can ya belive that we have offense problems for the first time since 2006 and now we praise our d.. But i love it and hate it.. If we had the same offense too go together with this defense.. Superbowl hands down.. Now we had to watch the panthers stink up the joint, but if it was us we would have got to the superbowl

[Halo]

Originally Posted by lsusaint912

Let me take that blame off corey white even though he did get beat i blame our offense.. Can ya belive that we have offense problems for the first time since 2006 and now we praise our d.. But i love it

I think this was the root of frustration with the fan base. Defense did what so many, myself included, asked - deliver a top 10.... to 15 (at least) defense. I long said if we had a defense ranked 15 or above overall we would march to the super bowl. 2009 was similar with extremely high take-aways.

So defense showed up in '13..... and the offense SUCKED wind! Saints fans are trained to expect a shoot-out on offense and hope the defense can slow the opponent down. Exactly what happened in '09-10 superbowl season. Collectively as Saints fans, we do not have the palette to appreciate a defense. We wait for the offense to come onto the field of play, so the frustrations run with our offense.

Our defense was stingy, even after losing greer and vaccarro. Or d-line started to get nasty. Best top 4 defense to never get "named" in the NFL. We just don't know how to take it with an impotent offense. Dome Patrol era, the offense was a wet rag - everyone waited for the defense to come on the field. People would go get beers or nachos when the offense was on the field. Now we're trained for the opposite and we don't appreciate what our defense accomplished this season.

[Schmohams]

Drew Brees has reverse Tony Romo disease. Plays good in the 4th quarter but not the first 3.