The official ***** and moan thread

[W. Kovacs]

Originally Posted by limitless

How can you place this loss on Brees? Ok it wasn't his best game, but seriously brees? I haven't seen a single QB have a stellar game against the Seahawk defense all year long. If anything Brees kept us in the game.

What about Hill dropping the ball or Colston, Sproles, Ingram, or anyone else who dropped balls early on? Mark Ingram dropeed a wide open screen and later he fumbled which cost use a clean 7 points. I don't see how you can put this one square on Brees.

Don't forget that our Receivers seem completely unwilling (unable?) to fight to get open. I love Coulston but is he a #1 on any other playoff team?

That said, I don't think Drew is the QB he was, even 2 years ago. He's still my favorite player of all time but I think it's time for his role to change a little bit. We need to emphasize the run, then have Drew devastate teams with his accuracy after we've worn them down a bit.

Think of any MLB Pitcher: after a season of hurling pitches their arms aren't quite the same, and later in their careers the effect is even more pronounced. I think the same is happening to Drew. Some of the pressure needs to be taken off of him because by week 14 or so, he's just not the same...

[limitless]

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

Don't forget that our Receivers seem completely unwilling (unable?) to fight to get open. I love Coulston but is he a #1 on any other playoff team?

That said, I don't think Drew is the QB he was, even 2 years ago. He's still my favorite player of all time but I think it's time for his role to change a little bit. We need to emphasize the run, then have Drew devastate teams with his accuracy after we've worn them down a bit.

Think of any MLB Pitcher: after a season of hurling pitches their arms aren't quite the same, and later in their careers the effect is even more pronounced. I think the same is happening to Drew. Some of the pressure needs to be taken off of him because by week 14 or so, he's just not the same...

I can accept this more than I can accept simply "It's Drew's fault why we lost the game" or "I'm ready for a new QB." Just want to remind everyone that without Drew we are a 5 or 6 win team at best. Drew is 34 years old and some of you on here make him out to be 40. I'm watching Brady who is 36 going on 37 and he's doing pretty good. He make questionable decisions and throws INT's too, but without Brady, NE is a 7 win team.

Also, I get ticked off reading this about Drew because people don't remember how bad our QB's were before he got here. I'd much rather he finish his career a Saint. He11, I'd put a 41 year old Drew in there over the other 90% of the average or BAD QB's in the NFL.

[AlaskaSaints]

Originally Posted by limitless

I can accept this more than I can accept simply "It's Drew's fault why we lost the game" or "I'm ready for a new QB." Just want to remind everyone that without Drew we are a 5 or 6 win team at best. Drew is 34 years old and some of you on here make him out to be 40. I'm watching Brady who is 36 going on 37 and he's doing pretty good. He make questionable decisions and throws INT's too, but without Brady, NE is a 7 win team.

Also, I get ticked off reading this about Drew because people don't remember how bad our QB's were before he got here. I'd much rather he finish his career a Saint. He11, I'd put a 41 year old Drew in there over the other 90% of the average or BAD QB's in the NFL.

Hate to break it to you, but there are 7 other QB's still in the playoffs at this moment not named Drew Brees. One of them will wear a Super Bowl ring. He's not even in the top 5 QB's in the game right now, you know. We've got the QB-Payday-Curse since '11.

He really needs to grow some legs when his bubble collapses. Maybe next year we can build him a better bubble.

Alaska

[Rell&Gold]

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Hate to break it to you, but there are 7 other QB's still in the playoffs at this moment not named Drew Brees. One of them will wear a Super Bowl ring. He's not even in the top 5 QB's in the game right now, you know. We've got the QB-Payday-Curse since '11.

He really needs to grow some legs when his bubble collapses. Maybe next year we can build him a better bubble.

Alaska

Are seven if those teams there soley because of their QB?

[AlaskaSaints]

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Are seven if those teams there soley because of their QB?

LOL. None of those teams is there WITHOUT their starting QB, that's for sure.
Pat's because Brady is THAT good.
Colts sucked before Luck.
Denver was not ready without Manning.
Seahawks were not contenders without Wilson.
Panthers, well, we know what Cam does for the Panthers.
San Diego will probably lose, but it can be argued that Rivers has got them where they are, no?
Kaepernick?

We live and die with Drew, it's plain and simple. When he plays bad, we lose.

Alaska