The official ***** and moan thread

[NoZone504]

You don't replace Drew...You manage his arm throughout a game.I Love 9...But he didn't have to deal with injuries too much...like we did on the other side of the ball...Look at the road numbers..And tell me we shouldn't turn him into a game manager to maximize his skills.

[Rell&Gold]

Originally Posted by NoZone504

You don't replace Drew...You manage his arm throughout a game.I Love 9...But he didn't have to deal with injuries too much...like we did on the other side of the ball...Look at the road numbers..And tell me we shouldn't turn him into a game manager to maximize his skills.

Our offense and defense period does not play the same on the road

[NoZone504]

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Our offense and defense period does not play the same on the road

The offense doesn't..They couldn't put together drives after the D would get a 3 and out.....How many times were good starts on the road ruined by stupid ints..

[W. Kovacs]

Originally Posted by NoZone504

The offense doesn't..They couldn't put together drives after the D would get a 3 and out.....How many times were good starts on the road ruined by stupid ints..

And how many of those ints came because opposing defenses sat 8 men back on routes and waited for the ball because they knew there was no threat of a running play and they could get pressure on Drew with 3 rushers?

Drew definitely made some boneheaded plays throughout the year, find me a QB who didn't, but to place the blame solely on him for road losses is borderline insanity.

Hopefully we emphasize the running game next year and give Drew the chance to be great again.

[W. Kovacs]

Originally Posted by NoZone504

You don't replace Drew...You manage his arm throughout a game.I Love 9...But he didn't have to deal with injuries too much...like we did on the other side of the ball...Look at the road numbers..And tell me we shouldn't turn him into a game manager to maximize his skills.

I think "game manager" might be a bit over the top but I agree our game plan needs to change for road games.

Teams that win on the road can run the ball and play good defense. That formula has been true for years and years, I don't know why we expect Drew and the Saints to be the exception...

[WHODATINCA]

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

I think "game manager" might be a bit over the top but I agree our game plan needs to change for road games.

Teams that win on the road can run the ball and play good defense. That formula has been true for years and years, I don't know why we expect Drew and the Saints to be the exception...

Exactly.

[NoZone504]

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

Exactly.

Belicheck never hesitates to turn Brady into a game manager...When Brady is a game manager they win and ever since they started letting him use the gun more..they haven't won...Go,back and watch some film of the great qbs..They manage a game until it's time to put on the cape and save the day..home or away!
Phil Simms a Hall of Fame QB and he was Game manager..
.Look at Aikman.If you ask me all qbs should be game managers...They win Super Bowls..
2009 Drew was a game manager

[W. Kovacs]

Originally Posted by NoZone504

Belicheck never hesitates to turn Brady into a game manager...When Brady is a game manager they win and ever since they started letting him use the gun more..they haven't won...Go,back and watch some film of the great qbs..They manage a game until it's time to put on the cape and save the day..home or away!
Phil Simms a Hall of Fame QB and he was Game manager..
.Look at Aikman.If you ask me all qbs should be game managers...They win Super Bowls..
2009 Drew was a game manager

True. I think Game Manager has a negative connotation, it's what you call guys like Trent Dilfer. Decent QBs but not what you'd call "great."

I think Drew was, is, and can be great...just maybe not quite as great as he was a couple of years ago.

[NoZone504]

It takes a team to be committed to the run...5000yd qbs don't win...
If that much comes from one player..come playoff time you're easier to beat!And just in case anybody forgot Lovie Smith is in Tampa now..So the division will be tougher.

[WHODATINCA]

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

I think "game manager" might be a bit over the top but I agree our game plan needs to change for road games.

Teams that win on the road can run the ball and play good defense. That formula has been true for years and years, I don't know why we expect Drew and the Saints to be the exception...

Teams that win on the road also protect their QB -- which if anyone noticed -- Drew almost got killed this year. Remember, the Rams. And what happened last time we went to Seattle on one of the first plays -- strip, fumble recovery, TD?

Our O-line sucked -- everyone knows it -- we didn't have a run game until the last game or two of the regular season -- and our WR corps often looked like their hands were numb.

But, anyway, if some people want to run down the biggest miracle this team has ever seen ( hint, his name is Drew Brees ), go ahead and look like an idiot. Be my guest.