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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintfan Agree with others. Excellent post. Brutal on some points, but I think you're essentially correct. I do however disagree with burning the entire playbook. I think a committed effort to RUN THE DANG BALL would do ...

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Old 01-13-2014, 03:23 PM   #1
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Agree with others. Excellent post. Brutal on some points, but I think you're essentially correct.

I do however disagree with burning the entire playbook. I think a committed effort to RUN THE DANG BALL would do WONDERS for our playbook. Frankly I think that's what Sean means about being less predictable. We need to have the ability to run when Jimmy is in the game. We need to have the ability to run when either PT, Khiry, or Mark is lined up. We are too predictable based on our offensive packages. At least that's my armchair opinion, which is all I have to offer.

I think if we make a concerned effort to get some people who truly excel on the offensive line so many of our problems go away. The ceiling is "cathedral" for our defense.

I'm very excited about next season already.
Agreed about the playbook. I'd guess 90% of the playbook contain plays that every team runs.

I don't think the plays are the problem as much as the predictability of the play calls.

Like you said, if we have success running the ball the opposing teams can't just sit back in soft zones and nickel defenses waiting for that inevitable mistake.
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Agreed about the playbook. I'd guess 90% of the playbook contain plays that every team runs.

I don't think the plays are the problem as much as the predictability of the play calls.

Like you said, if we have success running the ball the opposing teams can't just sit back in soft zones and nickel defenses waiting for that inevitable mistake.
First we need to get rid of the 12 different screen plays we run. No team needs that many screen plays. Second, sean payton needs to let his highly paid OC call plays. Lastly, we need to start playing with a little tempo. I know payton wants to create the ultimate formation mismatches every play but sometimes increasing the tempo does just as good because it gives the opponent no time to adjust even if they know what's coming.

Too many times did I see delay of games and wasted timeouts because of late substitutions, late play calls and brees spending 15 seconds to move players around. Simplify and execute.
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First we need to get rid of the 12 different screen plays we run. No team needs that many screen plays. Second, sean payton needs to let his highly paid OC call plays. Lastly, we need to start playing with a little tempo. I know payton wants to create the ultimate formation mismatches every play but sometimes increasing the tempo does just as good because it gives the opponent no time to adjust even if they know what's coming.

Too many times did I see delay of games and wasted timeouts because of late substitutions, late play calls and brees spending 15 seconds to move players around. Simplify and execute.
Man, they should call you up ike!
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...we need to start playing with a little tempo. I know payton wants to create the ultimate formation mismatches every play but sometimes increasing the tempo does just as good because it gives the opponent no time to adjust even if they know what's coming...
I'd like to see them run some no huddle too. Not all the time but when they think they've got a mismatch on the field, don't let it off the hook.
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