A look at Saints' 2014 roster decisions

Danno · 01-13-2014, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Same player being asked to do the same things.

Jenkins over the last 3 years has had 3 different DCs. Each year he has graded out as awful... under Rob Ryan he grades out as -6.0 which is among the NFLs worst safeties... care to go on?

Pretty simple, without a pass rush, safeties often get burned. Watch more football.

Btw, I'm not a huge Jenkins fan either, but using 2012 stats for anything is shortsighted. Greer and Hawthorne graded horribly too. How'd they work out this year?

blackangold · 01-13-2014, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Pretty simple, without a pass rush, safeties often get burned. Watch more football.

Btw, I'm not a huge Jenkins fan either, but using 2012 stats for anything is shortsighted. Greer and Hawthorne graded horribly too. How'd they work out this year?

I am being inclusive to use as much statistical information as possible.

How was our pass rush this year danno?

And how did Jenkins do?

Oh, yet again he was among the worst safeties.... watch more football, or in your case read more carefully.

Danno · 01-13-2014, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I am being inclusive to use as much statistical information as possible.

How was our pass rush this year danno?

And how did Jenkins do?

Oh, yet again he was among the worst safeties.... watch more football, or in your case read more carefully.

Speaking of reading more carefully sport, where did I say he was a good FS? I just pointed out the ignorance of using 2012 stats, which you've done several times now.

blackangold · 01-13-2014, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Speaking of reading more carefully sport, where did I say he was a good FS? I just pointed out the ignorance of using 2012 stats, which you've done several times now.

ok...

I don't want to hijack the thread further, I am glad you agree with me Danno I can now sleep better.

Back to the 2014 roster decision discussion...

|Mitch| · 01-13-2014, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

And how did Jenkins do?

4th on the team in tackles(68 total), 2.5 sacks, tied for the lead with 2 forced fumbles(team)...

blackangold · 01-13-2014, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

4th on the team in tackles(68 total), 2.5 sacks, tied for the lead with 2 forced fumbles(team)...

-6.0 PFF grade which measure everything including situation football

read more about PFF grades here: https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/

01-13-2014, 09:26 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: A look at Saints' 2014 roster decisions Originally Posted by blackangold Same player being asked to do the same things. Jenkins over the last 3 years has had 3 different DCs. Each year he has graded out as awful... under Rob Ryan he grades out as -6.0 which is among the NFLs worst safeties... care to go on? Pretty simple, without a pass rush, safeties often get burned. Watch more football. Btw, I'm not a huge Jenkins fan either, but using 2012 stats for anything is shortsighted. Greer and Hawthorne graded horribly too. How'd they work out this year?

01-13-2014, 09:31 PM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: A look at Saints' 2014 roster decisions Originally Posted by Danno Pretty simple, without a pass rush, safeties often get burned. Watch more football. Btw, I'm not a huge Jenkins fan either, but using 2012 stats for anything is shortsighted. Greer and Hawthorne graded horribly too. How'd they work out this year? I am being inclusive to use as much statistical information as possible. How was our pass rush this year danno? And how did Jenkins do? Oh, yet again he was among the worst safeties.... watch more football, or in your case read more carefully.

01-13-2014, 09:35 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: A look at Saints' 2014 roster decisions Originally Posted by blackangold I am being inclusive to use as much statistical information as possible. How was our pass rush this year danno? And how did Jenkins do? Oh, yet again he was among the worst safeties.... watch more football, or in your case read more carefully. Speaking of reading more carefully sport, where did I say he was a good FS? I just pointed out the ignorance of using 2012 stats, which you've done several times now.

01-13-2014, 09:37 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: A look at Saints' 2014 roster decisions Originally Posted by Danno Speaking of reading more carefully sport, where did I say he was a good FS? I just pointed out the ignorance of using 2012 stats, which you've done several times now. ok... I don't want to hijack the thread further, I am glad you agree with me Danno I can now sleep better. Back to the 2014 roster decision discussion...

01-13-2014, 09:37 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: A look at Saints' 2014 roster decisions Originally Posted by blackangold And how did Jenkins do? 4th on the team in tackles(68 total), 2.5 sacks, tied for the lead with 2 forced fumbles(team)...

01-13-2014, 09:39 PM	#6
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: A look at Saints' 2014 roster decisions Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| 4th on the team in tackles(68 total), 2.5 sacks, tied for the lead with 2 forced fumbles(team)... -6.0 PFF grade which measure everything including situation football read more about PFF grades here: https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/

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