New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan

WillSaints81 · 01-19-2014, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Then why wouldn't you use the first two picks of those six picks to turn fine....... Into special.... A ball hawking safety, another shutdownish corner, or and OLB...... I believe you can fix your o line in the middle rounds like you have
Always done..... and instead of wasting a pick on a wide out you can go get an established one for cheap..... Maclin, Nicks....etc....

Gordon? Also, Terrence Williams or Miles Austin from Dallas since the cowboys don't know what to do with them on O.

burningmetal · 01-22-2014, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I wouldn't burn our first two draft picks on a #4 in yards and points/game (#2 passing/ #19 rushing) defense that would have been better if healthy. We did that with a number of injuries to starters.

Not when our starting offense was 10th in scoring.

The defense is fine and did its job. Offense needs to be addressed with an injection of youth.

Added: I do believe that going into our last draft... We had no clue what we had on defense and the picture is a lot clearer and brighter now.

If we absolutely can't improve the defense because of our need on the O-line, then I think that's ok. But we do need more play making ability in the secondary, and more depth. We just do not create enough turnovers, and that was the biggest strength of our championship team in '09.

So I'm not saying it has to be defense, but if the right guy is there I wouldn't call it a wasted pick. Just take the best player available between offensive lineman and cornerback. Don't reach for a lineman if he isn't first round material.

As far as the WR corps, there is no lack of talent. It's a lack of physicality. I'm not sure we can necessarily fix that in this draft, but if we can it's going to have to wait till after the first round. We have greater needs.

halloween 65 · 01-17-2014, 09:24 AM

Morgans got talent but he has to stay healthy, AA couldn't stay healthy either and we finally moved on this is Morgans do or die season I think.

lee909 · 01-17-2014, 10:34 AM

The defence has a couple of leaky holes the offense needs the roof replaced

TheOak · 01-17-2014, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

The defence has a couple of leaky holes the offense needs the roof replaced

Precisely. The holes have plugs already, they just need to be healthy.

alleycat_126 · 01-23-2014, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

The defence has a couple of leaky holes the offense needs the roof replaced

How does the whole roof need to be replaced Armstead was handling business near the end....C, RT..... Of course I personally would love a new infusion of youth along with Khiry, maybe like Andre Williams.... Boston College.... But that would definitely be asking for to much.....

jnormand · 01-17-2014, 11:09 AM

I hope we address the offensive line. I think the defense was great and gets some guys back next year. Maybe a CB, but I still think the offensive line could use the most help.

UK_WhoDat · 01-17-2014, 11:38 AM

Bad luck for Morgan. I hope he makes it back, somewhere.
I like what Stills tried to do with his time.
We have got to look forwards and rejuvenate the offense with raw talented youth

jeanpierre · 01-17-2014, 11:48 AM

We didn't have a deep threat because Drew can't get it downfield the way he used to do...

Stills, Meachem have shown they are capable of the big play downfield; Toon learns the catchy-ball thing, that'll be three...

Wow, we've got a good WR corps...

ScottF · 01-17-2014, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We didn't have a deep threat because Drew can't get it downfield the way he used to do...

Stills, Meachem have shown they are capable of the big play downfield; Toon learns the catchy-ball thing, that'll be three...

Wow, we've got a good WR corps...

Yep... add a stud LT or C and we'll all be amazed at all of the deep threats we have on this team

oh, and Stills is as fast as Morgan, so not sure I get the aritcle

01-22-2014, 06:02 AM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan Originally Posted by TheOak I wouldn't burn our first two draft picks on a #4 in yards and points/game (#2 passing/ #19 rushing) defense that would have been better if healthy. We did that with a number of injuries to starters. Not when our starting offense was 10th in scoring. The defense is fine and did its job. Offense needs to be addressed with an injection of youth. Added: I do believe that going into our last draft... We had no clue what we had on defense and the picture is a lot clearer and brighter now. If we absolutely can't improve the defense because of our need on the O-line, then I think that's ok. But we do need more play making ability in the secondary, and more depth. We just do not create enough turnovers, and that was the biggest strength of our championship team in '09. So I'm not saying it has to be defense, but if the right guy is there I wouldn't call it a wasted pick. Just take the best player available between offensive lineman and cornerback. Don't reach for a lineman if he isn't first round material. As far as the WR corps, there is no lack of talent. It's a lack of physicality. I'm not sure we can necessarily fix that in this draft, but if we can it's going to have to wait till after the first round. We have greater needs. MarchingOn likes this.
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01-17-2014, 09:24 AM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan Morgans got talent but he has to stay healthy, AA couldn't stay healthy either and we finally moved on this is Morgans do or die season I think. QBREES9 likes this.

01-17-2014, 10:39 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan Originally Posted by lee909 The defence has a couple of leaky holes the offense needs the roof replaced Precisely. The holes have plugs already, they just need to be healthy.

01-23-2014, 10:18 AM	#6
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan Originally Posted by lee909 The defence has a couple of leaky holes the offense needs the roof replaced How does the whole roof need to be replaced Armstead was handling business near the end....C, RT..... Of course I personally would love a new infusion of youth along with Khiry, maybe like Andre Williams.... Boston College.... But that would definitely be asking for to much.....

01-17-2014, 11:09 AM	#7
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan I hope we address the offensive line. I think the defense was great and gets some guys back next year. Maybe a CB, but I still think the offensive line could use the most help. ScottF and MarchingOn like this.

01-19-2014, 10:55 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,276	Re: New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Then why wouldn't you use the first two picks of those six picks to turn fine....... Into special.... A ball hawking safety, another shutdownish corner, or and OLB...... I believe you can fix your o line in the middle rounds like you have Always done..... and instead of wasting a pick on a wide out you can go get an established one for cheap..... Maclin, Nicks....etc.... Gordon? Also, Terrence Williams or Miles Austin from Dallas since the cowboys don't know what to do with them on O.

01-17-2014, 10:34 AM	#4
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01-17-2014, 11:38 AM	#8
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan Bad luck for Morgan. I hope he makes it back, somewhere. I like what Stills tried to do with his time. We have got to look forwards and rejuvenate the offense with raw talented youth

01-17-2014, 11:48 AM	#9
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01-17-2014, 01:13 PM	#10
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: New Orleans Saints' deep-threat options were limited without Joe Morgan Originally Posted by jeanpierre We didn't have a deep threat because Drew can't get it downfield the way he used to do... Stills, Meachem have shown they are capable of the big play downfield; Toon learns the catchy-ball thing, that'll be three... Wow, we've got a good WR corps... Yep... add a stud LT or C and we'll all be amazed at all of the deep threats we have on this team oh, and Stills is as fast as Morgan, so not sure I get the aritcle

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