Was it really that bad?
 

I've got to admit, I haven't bothered watching any games since the Arizona disaster. I gave up on them there. I haven't even bothered watching highlights.

But I just got on this board today, and I almost can't believe the flames on it. Are they really this bad? It must be a complete meltdown.

Are there any mediocre areas on the team? Or is it just a flat disaster all the way around... I'm curious about specifics.

Was it really that bad?
 

IMO - Deuce is mediocre this season. The rest of the teams is just bad.

Was it really that bad?
 

Only a couple of players are even trying -- Grant, Deuce adn McKenzie are actuallyplaying hard. The rest of the team has packed it in for the season. Brooks has been okay this year but is still inconsistent and cannot light a flame under the team. As for me -- I am more upset and frusttrated than any other time in Saint\'s history. At least in the early years they put in a valid effort -- now they give up. I dread the KC and Denver games.

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i told everyone watch for Gates, no one believed me and actually said you have a shut down defense. Not going to rub it in cause i sat next to the nicest saints fan all krunked up passing the cogniac, goodluck with your team, you guys arent as bad as i witnessed, you just got to improve that D. Also invest in an O line. best wishes and please beat the falcons, its all love...and im out GO BOLTS!

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Name one person who said this! Just one!

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Whoever made the coment on the shutdown D, must have not seen our team play since the late 80\'s.

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CHACHING and saintswhodi were the most adamit about how my team was going to be takin care of, especially because of ur \"great pass rush\" and \"mckenzie was the main reason breres will get shut down\" now im not trying to rub it in but Osgood our fourth string receiver stift armed him so bad i thought mckenzie had to leave the field right then and there

PS your radio play by play guy\'s \"head up their ass\" statement after one of gates TD catch is being played after every commercial on our radio show today and i still keep laughing that he actually said that

[Edited on 8/11/2004 by chileanbolt]

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I applaud the Chargers. Always liked them since I was a kid.

ChileanBolt, could you talk to you guys front office about a possible Brees trade our way?? Come on, you guys have Phillip Rivers. Don\'t be selfish.

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Chileanbolt -- maybe you should be on a different forum. This is a Saints forum. And yes the Chargers won -- but I believe you need to be a saints fan in order to criticize them. And I will make a prediction here and now for you --- your team will fold near the end of the season --- stumble into the playofffs and lose their first game.

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all us fans here want to trade rivers, not all of us of course theres gonna be the other opinion but SD is fallin in love with brees. We wanted his head last year and since we actually givwe him time in the pocket and there numerous weapons at his disposal he plays with more confidence and i think thats the biggest thing, i have been saying for awhile to anyone that wanted to hear that we are going to keep brees especially when u go to ESPN.com\'s front page and they say he is a MVP brees

also i got nothing but love for the saints ive always hoped good things for them and after i hung out with a saints fan passing the drinks back and forth and just having fun, i hope u guys can turn that thing around

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I would be willing to give SD Sullivan and Brooks for Rivers.

Want to make a trade.

:D

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Chili dog,

This is an out and out lie and I am calling you on it right now. I never EVER at any point said any of these things. What I did was call YOU out for being on a Saints forum talking crap a week before we were to play the Chargers. I dare you to find a thread where I said either of these things you are claiming. You got me wrong pal. I said I HOPED the Saints would blow out the Chargers so we would NEVER have to hear from you again. I never said it woudl happen or that it was even likely. Spread your lies elsewhere my flaming little friend. I can;t speak for Chaching but no way am I gonna let you lie on me.

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Come on Whodi, everyone knows you\'re always talking up our great pass rush, and coverage abilities. You\'re not fooling us. ;)

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Just so we all know who we are dealing with, this is what Mr. Chili(is he still with Usher) had to say about us as fans and our team before the game. Ask BLackandBlue if he decides to go and edit it later in the make the call verses san diego thread.

Nice guy to have around right?

FOB,

I am going to assume you were joking so we can continue to have an amiccable relationship, or else :whip:

[Edited on 8/11/2004 by saintswhodi]

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whodi u got ur own fans calling u out, enough said, just let it go, and people telling me i shouldn\'t be here cause im not a saints fan, come on bro how dumb was that comment, if you had a good team u would do the same, its all in fun and im a huge NFL fan. I like to see all kinds of teams

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I don\'t care who it is that attacks the organization and the players. You attack these forums and the people that post here, that won\'t be tolerated, at all. Chilean, you seemed to have calmed down since this past weekend, but you have zero room for error based on this post:

Once again, I\'ll say this:
KEEP THE ATTACKS DIRECTED AT THE TEAM AND IT\'S PLAYERS, NOT THE FORUM OR FANS, OF ANY TEAM. DO NOT TRY ME, I HAVE NO COMPASSION.


[Edited on 8/11/2004 by BlackandBlue]

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Chili Willie,

I guess the big yellow smirking smiley face fact-o-bake put at the end of his post wasn\'t enough to tip you off he was joking. Next time I will ask him to put in capitolized bold flashing size 72 font, I WAS JOKING!! And then the best part is you used it to actually try to better your argument. That is priceless. We\'ll see how much longer you last. Most people on here actually have something valuable to say when they post. I will let everyone else judge you for themselves, although I think BNB has his mind made up what to think of you.

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ok ok i know u guys are bitter i realize that i would be too if i had to back that team. I didnt bash anyone today except bring up stuff from the other day, i hope theres no hard feelings its all in fun and i\'m gonna leave u guys to mourn. we are done with u guys as will everyone else this year, whoops thats a bash but if its true then i guess i should keep it on this post. take it easy my bayou bredern, geaux saints

PS lambert should be a high first round pick u should be in perfect position, drop brooks

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OK, Enough! This thread is locked.



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Beat me to it Joe. I wanna add my two cents, which I was typing when you locked this. Sorry for the edit...


Other teams fans have been welcome here in the past. Sure, they come here to stir things up, but as long as they attack the team, there\'s nothing inappropriate about it.

If another team\'s fan comes in here and says \"the Saints suck\" that does not give the members of this board free reign to attack that guy either. I think Chili Willie got beat on pretty good. I guess you have to expect that talking trash on another board... but let\'s keep something in mind - just b/c a person might be rubbing it in doesn\'t mean he\'s wrong. Be mad at the team, not the messenger.

Remember guys, this is a forum. By definition it is meant to support discussion and communication despite differing opinions. Attack the argument, not the person and everything should work as planned. Thanks.

[Edited on 8/11/2004 by WhoDat]