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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; He has dropped to many passes this year. He\'s dropped like 2. And for all his \"drops\", what always stands out are his photogenic catches. I think sometimes people\'s opinions of Horn are clouded because of his antics, and not ...
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11-08-2004, 04:25 PM | #11 |
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11-08-2004, 04:33 PM | #12 |
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whoa..wait up..deuce..a 2000 yard back??..yeah...with a new offensive line...new tight ends...new qb that can make enough of throws to get defenses to bite on the play fake...new offense...basically..we would have to get wide outs that can catch..and block...you say..\'\'the team has to have one side..it can\'t be bad players and bad coaching..\'\'..well..yeah..it can..and it is...wo don\'t have the personel to make venturi\'s schemes effective...our coaches cannot plan..or make adjustments to correct problems that arise during the game...it is painfully obvious that the coaches do not know..or have the slightest idea of how to plan or conduct a practice schedule...and our players in turn..have no idea about whats going on...answer me this..why was gandy behind brooks on the right side...when brooks threw that laughable bacwards pass?..there\'s no way that a screen play has the left tackle lining up behind the qb\'s right side...and aaron threw it to him????..he had no idea what was going on...my point stands...total re-organization...total rebuild..ground up..all sides of the ball..we stink..flat out..no offense..no defense..no special teams..no more excuses...
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11-08-2004, 04:54 PM | #13 |
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Joe Horn has been our most consistant offensive player for the past three years.
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11-08-2004, 05:05 PM | #14 |
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O.K. Danno. I guess I\'m not educated enough, but am hungry for knowledge. Where can I find stats on dropped passes by personnel, also practice squad transactions. As far as the O-line goes, of course I don\'t think we should cut the entire line. I guess what I should say is that not one of them including Bentley is playing well enough to earn a competition free starting position next year.
As far as Stallworth, how long are you supposed to give a guy to develop. This is his third season, and even if he drops less passes than Horn, he rarely makes up for them as Horn always does. If speed was the most important attribute of a receiver, then John Capel would have made the Bears, as well as be an olympic sprinter. |
11-08-2004, 05:28 PM | #15 |
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Trade Brooks, cut Bouman and pick up a decent utility QB.
Keep Deuce and Karney, pick up a utility back-up rb. Move Bentley back to guard, pick up a good FA center, keep Holland. Tell Gandy and Riley to hit the road and pick up two FA\'s to fill the void. Keep Conwell and Boo at TE, ( I think a new coaching staff will help this problem). Keep Donte, Pathon and trade Horn unless he renegotiates. Develope Henderson and pick up a good FA WR. Cut Lewis, he\'s had enough. On defense, keep Grant, Will Smith, Watson, Ruff, MM, Mitchell, Brown, Craft and TJ. Draft LB\'s, Safties . Sign LB\'s and Safties in FA. Hire Randy Mueller back to be the GM and a lot of these problems will be taken care of, I promise you. O-well, wishful thinking, a Saint\'s fan has got to dream. |
11-08-2004, 05:46 PM | #16 |
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MAINLY: I think a recurring problem this coaching staff has had is developing players or rather NOT developing players. We have a ton of young players who very well may blossom into stars under a new regime. I don\'t want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. |
11-08-2004, 06:06 PM | #17 |
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No wonder peoples posts get turned around so often here. Nobody reads them anymore. |
11-08-2004, 06:16 PM | #18 |
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I think you are getting ahead of yourself... its been along season, but dont get so frustrated we get rid of everything... we do have a few decent players on the team... [Edited on 8/11/2004 by SycoSurfer] |
11-08-2004, 06:59 PM | #19 |
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[Edited on 9/11/2004 by BlackandBlue] |
11-08-2004, 07:05 PM | #20 |
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Keep Brooks! Yes he made a stuuuuupid play, but he had no protection. when he has time, he CAN do it. (I knew we were going to lose yesterday when we started the game with 3 straight passes--McCarthy sucks donkey n****!!!) and Bouman is a good backup. I think we are ok there
RB -- Deuce is the present and future. We should be ride his back all the way to the playoffs. Instead we pass a ton and try to play catch up. Run Deuce Run!!! And Karney just rules. WR -- Horn stays. We can\'t afford to get rid of the only consistent threat we have there. Stallworth may benefit from a new coaching system and Henderson as well. Still A mid round draft pick on a good young guy will help. TE -- we should have drafted a good one 2 years ago (Whitten, maybe?). I like Boo, but maybe some good, top-end competition will help. Hilton can stay too. OL -- Bentley and Holland get to stay. Cut the dead weight. We had no reason to go after Gandy. Now we know why. Riley sucks like he worked for Heidi Fleiss and Jacox now doubles as a screen at the local cineplex. Focus FA and 1st rnd draft here. (Munoz - Tennessee or kid from Oklahoma or kid from Miss. State (bias there DL -- Grant. Next LB -- Watson and finally a move in FA you dumb, front office bastards!! How do you not even TRY for Takeo Spikes!!?? DB -- FS needs change. All others are surprisingly good. Just the words of a frustrated Saints fan. At least I\'m on leave while this is happening. |