Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal

01-21-2014, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Just read up on the non-exclusive, thats the way to go. If a team really wants him 2 first rounders would be great. Loomis play hardball, sign him for his worth or get 2 first round picks, win, win.

There is a little more to it than that.

In layman terms Non-exclusive means Jimmy would be offered the NEFT of 6.9M, from there he could go out and interview with anyone he wants to. If he get an offer in excess of the 6.9M he was offered, lets say the Falcons offer Jimmy 9m, the Saints have the right to match it and retain Jimmy. If the Saints chose not to match it then they have the right to two first round draft picks.

Now the NEFT is a cheaper tag than the EFT but has the risk of having to pay a lot more to keep the player.

NRFT is basically to test the market to find a players true perceived value.

Since this is Jimmy Graham we are talking about, I ask you... Is two first round draft picks worth facing him twice a year if he plays for Carolina... Atlanta.... Tampa bay?

rezburna · 01-21-2014, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

There is a little more to it than that.

In layman terms Non-exclusive means Jimmy would be offered the NEFT of 6.9M, from there he could go out and interview with anyone he wants to. If he get an offer in excess of the 6.9M he was offered, lets say the Falcons offer Jimmy 9m, the Saints have the right to match it and retain Jimmy. If the Saints chose not to match it then they have the right to two first round draft picks.

Now the NEFT is a cheaper tag than the EFT but has the risk of having to pay a lot more to keep the player.

NRFT is basically to test the market to find a players true perceived value.

Since this is Jimmy Graham we are talking about, I ask you... Is two first round draft picks worth facing him twice a year if he plays for Carolina... Atlanta.... Tampa bay?

Yep. All you need is a corner or safety willing to be rough with him and he'll disappear.

Hell, trade Jimmy Graham for Earl Thomas or Richard Sherman straight up.

I'd love to keep you Jimmy, but I damn sure don't want to see us overpay you.

jeanpierre · 01-21-2014, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Just read up on the non-exclusive, thats the way to go. If a team really wants him 2 first rounders would be great. Loomis play hardball, sign him for his worth or get 2 first round picks, win, win.

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TheOak · 01-21-2014, 03:49 PM

I'll go out on a limb here in regards to a QB. Sean will not draft out next starting QB, it ill come via free agency just like Drew did. Knowing he had the #2 pick in that draft he didn't take a QB. Ill admit the draft class for QBs wasn't stellar but he didn't know that then.

Young
Leinart
Cutler
Jackson

He was strategic in his decision because he wanted a QB that was up and running... I see him doing the same for our next starting QB.

halloween 65 · 01-21-2014, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

There is a little more to it than that.

In layman terms Non-exclusive means Jimmy would be offered the NEFT of 6.9M, from there he could go out and interview with anyone he wants to. If he get an offer in excess of the 6.9M he was offered, lets say the Falcons offer Jimmy 9m, the Saints have the right to match it and retain Jimmy. If the Saints chose not to match it then they have the right to two first round draft picks.

Now the NEFT is a cheaper tag than the EFT but has the risk of having to pay a lot more to keep the player.

NRFT is basically to test the market to find a players true perceived value.

Since this is Jimmy Graham we are talking about, I ask you... Is two first round draft picks worth facing him twice a year if he plays for Carolina... Atlanta.... Tampa bay?

Yes!! Two 1st rounders could go a long way.

TheOak · 01-21-2014, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Yes!! Two 1st rounders could go a long way.

Yep.. We could end up with the next Ricky Williams and Donte' Stallworth, or perhaps another Will Smith. Sounds like a fair trade for Jimmy Graham..

How underwhelming.

ScottF · 01-21-2014, 05:05 PM

Wow...are we really talking about letting Graham walk away for 2 draft picks? We get one Kenny Vaccaro and one Cam Jordan and we forget everyone else that gets/got crucified here weekly: Ingram, Ellis, Bush, Meachem, Jenkins and Robinson., and it is even WORSE before that.
I guess I would stick with the proven top 3 guy at his position before I traded for a potential bust

dueceloose · 01-21-2014, 05:40 PM

I rather have jimmy than not plus hes already grown with Brees and we know how Drew likes his security blanket. I honestly don't think its all about the money with Jimmy.

If hes willing to leave the game when Drew does and not have a Gonzo type career it must not be about money.

QBREES9 · 01-21-2014, 05:47 PM

Welcome to the business season.

dueceloose · 01-21-2014, 05:50 PM

Let's hope Jimmy wants a SB more than a high salary

01-21-2014, 02:19 PM	#11
Threaded by TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by halloween 65 Just read up on the non-exclusive, thats the way to go. If a team really wants him 2 first rounders would be great. Loomis play hardball, sign him for his worth or get 2 first round picks, win, win. There is a little more to it than that. In layman terms Non-exclusive means Jimmy would be offered the NEFT of 6.9M, from there he could go out and interview with anyone he wants to. If he get an offer in excess of the 6.9M he was offered, lets say the Falcons offer Jimmy 9m, the Saints have the right to match it and retain Jimmy. If the Saints chose not to match it then they have the right to two first round draft picks. Now the NEFT is a cheaper tag than the EFT but has the risk of having to pay a lot more to keep the player. NRFT is basically to test the market to find a players true perceived value. Since this is Jimmy Graham we are talking about, I ask you... Is two first round draft picks worth facing him twice a year if he plays for Carolina... Atlanta.... Tampa bay?
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01-21-2014, 02:27 PM	#12
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal Originally Posted by TheOak There is a little more to it than that. In layman terms Non-exclusive means Jimmy would be offered the NEFT of 6.9M, from there he could go out and interview with anyone he wants to. If he get an offer in excess of the 6.9M he was offered, lets say the Falcons offer Jimmy 9m, the Saints have the right to match it and retain Jimmy. If the Saints chose not to match it then they have the right to two first round draft picks. Now the NEFT is a cheaper tag than the EFT but has the risk of having to pay a lot more to keep the player. NRFT is basically to test the market to find a players true perceived value. Since this is Jimmy Graham we are talking about, I ask you... Is two first round draft picks worth facing him twice a year if he plays for Carolina... Atlanta.... Tampa bay? Yep. All you need is a corner or safety willing to be rough with him and he'll disappear. Hell, trade Jimmy Graham for Earl Thomas or Richard Sherman straight up. I'd love to keep you Jimmy, but I damn sure don't want to see us overpay you. saintsfan1976 likes this.

01-21-2014, 03:49 PM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal I'll go out on a limb here in regards to a QB. Sean will not draft out next starting QB, it ill come via free agency just like Drew did. Knowing he had the #2 pick in that draft he didn't take a QB. Ill admit the draft class for QBs wasn't stellar but he didn't know that then. Young Leinart Cutler Jackson He was strategic in his decision because he wanted a QB that was up and running... I see him doing the same for our next starting QB. saintsfan1976 likes this.

01-21-2014, 03:52 PM	#15
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal Originally Posted by TheOak There is a little more to it than that. In layman terms Non-exclusive means Jimmy would be offered the NEFT of 6.9M, from there he could go out and interview with anyone he wants to. If he get an offer in excess of the 6.9M he was offered, lets say the Falcons offer Jimmy 9m, the Saints have the right to match it and retain Jimmy. If the Saints chose not to match it then they have the right to two first round draft picks. Now the NEFT is a cheaper tag than the EFT but has the risk of having to pay a lot more to keep the player. NRFT is basically to test the market to find a players true perceived value. Since this is Jimmy Graham we are talking about, I ask you... Is two first round draft picks worth facing him twice a year if he plays for Carolina... Atlanta.... Tampa bay? Yes!! Two 1st rounders could go a long way.

01-21-2014, 03:57 PM	#16
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal Originally Posted by halloween 65 Yes!! Two 1st rounders could go a long way. Yep.. We could end up with the next Ricky Williams and Donte' Stallworth, or perhaps another Will Smith. Sounds like a fair trade for Jimmy Graham.. How underwhelming.

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01-21-2014, 05:05 PM	#17
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal Wow...are we really talking about letting Graham walk away for 2 draft picks? We get one Kenny Vaccaro and one Cam Jordan and we forget everyone else that gets/got crucified here weekly: Ingram, Ellis, Bush, Meachem, Jenkins and Robinson., and it is even WORSE before that. I guess I would stick with the proven top 3 guy at his position before I traded for a potential bust

01-21-2014, 05:40 PM	#18
dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal I rather have jimmy than not plus hes already grown with Brees and we know how Drew likes his security blanket. I honestly don't think its all about the money with Jimmy. If hes willing to leave the game when Drew does and not have a Gonzo type career it must not be about money.
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01-21-2014, 05:47 PM	#19
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal Welcome to the business season.

01-21-2014, 05:50 PM	#20
dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal Let's hope Jimmy wants a SB more than a high salary
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