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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; How did we EVER win a Super Bowl without Jimmy Graham? Listening to you guys, it just doesn't seem possible. I'll take two first-rounders in a heartbeat. One of the reasons we are not still in it, is because we ...

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Old 01-22-2014, 12:21 PM   #1
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Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal

How did we EVER win a Super Bowl without Jimmy Graham?

Listening to you guys, it just doesn't seem possible.

I'll take two first-rounders in a heartbeat.

One of the reasons we are not still in it, is because we concentrate too much on Jimmy Graham, when most other TEs in the game can make the catches he does and drops that he does.

We forgot about the deep route because we now have Jimmy Graham, and it has cost us.

Agree or disagree, but that's the way I see it.

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Old 01-22-2014, 04:44 PM   #2
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Re: Loomis: Saints will franchise Graham as a tight end if no long-term deal

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How did we EVER win a Super Bowl without Jimmy Graham?

Listening to you guys, it just doesn't seem possible.

I'll take two first-rounders in a heartbeat.

One of the reasons we are not still in it, is because we concentrate too much on Jimmy Graham, when most other TEs in the game can make the catches he does and drops that he does.

We forgot about the deep route because we now have Jimmy Graham, and it has cost us.

Agree or disagree, but that's the way I see it.

Alaska
not following the logic here at all
who are you blaming for 'concentrating too much on JG'? Brees? Payton as a play caller? how can it be Graham's fault?
Brees threw 43 times vs Seattle, targetting Graham 6 times. We also ran 26 times. So basically Graham was 8% of our 'concentration'

most TE's do NOT make most of the catches he does, evidenced by him leading all TE's in catches and yards, and ALL players in TD's
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Old 01-22-2014, 05:11 PM   #3
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not following the logic here at all
who are you blaming for 'concentrating too much on JG'? Brees? Payton as a play caller? how can it be Graham's fault?
Brees threw 43 times vs Seattle, targetting Graham 6 times. We also ran 26 times. So basically Graham was 8% of our 'concentration'

most TE's do NOT make most of the catches he does, evidenced by him leading all TE's in catches and yards, and ALL players in TD's
With all due respect, you reference one game. One of the games where Jimmy was taken out of production by smothering, dedicated cover.

Like I said, agree or disagree, but this is the way I see it.

My logic is that we won the Super Bowl before we had Jimmy Graham and we can win it again, without Jimmy Graham.

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Old 01-24-2014, 01:28 PM   #4
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With all due respect, you reference one game. One of the games where Jimmy was taken out of production by smothering, dedicated cover.

Like I said, agree or disagree, but this is the way I see it.

My logic is that we won the Super Bowl before we had Jimmy Graham and we can win it again, without Jimmy Graham.

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but in the other games he managed 86 ctaches and 16 TD's, which isn't exactly a bad thing either
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