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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Thomas, Moore and Sproles is who I'd keep. I'd get something of value for Ingram, while some people think he's worth it....

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Old 01-25-2014, 06:15 PM   #1
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Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)

Thomas, Moore and Sproles is who I'd keep.
I'd get something of value for Ingram, while some people think he's worth it.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:51 PM   #2
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Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)

Bring back Pierre Thomas (Current Rate), Lance Moore (Slight Adjusted Contract), Mark Ingram (Now that we're finally using him); Sproles, who's been one of my personal fav's, seems like he doesn't have the extra wheel since his injury and being he's 30+, we need to start to rotate younger players at that position...

Also bring back, Patrick Robinson (Finally Getting Some Coaching and then an injury); at the very least let 'em finish the contract and see if current defensive back coaches can get something there...

Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins Tandem is great - don't mess with it; and we have versatility where Tyrunn Walker or Akiem Hicks can slide over and help in a pinch...

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Old 01-26-2014, 12:28 AM   #3
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Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)

only thing about Lance Moore and Meachem is they show up 4 games out of the season.

Kenny Stills gets a pass due to being a rookie.

PT and Sproles are deadly in the screen game, the screen game dont work unless they are decent in the run game which they havent been.

Their needs to be some fixes on the offense otherwise we will start seeing more games like we saw vs Panthers, Jets, and Seahawks.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:14 AM   #4
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To Showtime5: Danno asked a question and gave a list to choose from. From that you went off like someone was about to steal your wobie, threw out insulting remarks, and to stick with your assumption theme made a few emotional inaccurate claims, and questioned his fandom.

On a scale from 1 to invade Russia in the Winter, how well thought out are your replies?
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:28 AM   #5
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Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)

So two fumbles in three years is a fumbling problem to you?
I just don't know how to reply to that one.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:46 AM   #6
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So two fumbles in three years is a fumbling problem to you?
I just don't know how to reply to that one.
Then don't. I fully explained why I felt that way.... I think I did that well enough for you to understand why I felt that way........ But, if that's not enough for you I could also add the injury history, and the 2 plus years of two yards and a cloud of dust if the first part doesn't help you.... I don't feel he is the future of our back field.... It's an opinion... my opinion, and mine only!!!!
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Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)

I say let sproles go but keep thomas, thomas is very underated. Smith, Jreer, moore should go. Also dont sign haralson he is a great player no doubt but he is too injury prone
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Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)

Cutting:

1. You can cut when a player is depth but doesn't play.

2. You can cut when there is no dead money associated.

3. You can cut when cap hit is higher than dead money hit..... AND you can find better talent for no more than the difference.


Anything other that will hurt.

You don't cut a 5M cap hit with 4.5M dead money and replace with equal talent. WTF is the gain?
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Old 01-26-2014, 03:23 PM   #9
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Re: Who to cut (cap hits included)

Honestly, I could see the Saints being just fine with all of the suggested individuals gone, but I would like to see at least Ingram and either Sproles or Thomas back... not necessarily both. While a large staple of backs is nice, I'd like to see the Saints highlight fewer of them during a single game, so that they'd be able to get into the running game a bit better - I think this especially holds true for Ingram.

Moore is another one I'd like to see back, but I'm not entirely sure if it's more from an emotional standpoint than production versus investment. A lot depends on Toon as well, if he can actually become a contributing part of this offense then maybe Stills could take up Moore's spot, but again that's an unknown while Moore is at this point of his career a well known commodity.

I feel like Greer's time with the Saints is done, while he is/was still a great coverage CB, he has started to lack the physicality to keep up with many of the younger more physical receivers around. Add that to the effect that this latest injury may have on his long-term conditioning, and the Saints might be better of giving his roster spot to a younger player. I'd like to see Robinson given (yet) another chance to show his worth, but if the staff thinks it's time to part with him I can certainly understand the logic behind that decision as well.

And definitely keep Bunkley around - if his contract can be massaged a bit all the better, but even with the terms in place I think he is a keeper.
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Honestly, I could see the Saints being just fine with all of the suggested individuals gone, but I would like to see at least Ingram and either Sproles or Thomas back... not necessarily both. While a large staple of backs is nice, I'd like to see the Saints highlight fewer of them during a single game, so that they'd be able to get into the running game a bit better - I think this especially holds true for Ingram.

Agree, not sure we need "wholesale" change; maintain continuity...

With maybe the exception on the offensive line...

Not sure we don't already "package" or "feature" certain running backs from week to week depending on opponent...

Expect that either Sproles or Thomas to be released from their respective contracts; both a Thomas and Sproles fan, but Sproles' size, being 30+, and much slower than two years ago, plus the knee injury - he's most vulnerable...

Thomas still has the power and is the most effective running the screen (have posted ad nauseum); but Ingram is his biggest factor in returning; Ingram could be extended with his salary slot and Thomas will turn 30 this season...

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