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The Dude 01-29-2014 05:01 PM

Is Armstead the future?
 
Have they seen enough of him to be comfortable penciling him in as the starter next year? If he is the future do we bring in a solid veteran for a year for him to get some experience behind or do we just put him out there. If he's not the future would we be able to find someone in the draft that can instantly come in and start or do we go the FA route?
Personally I like the way the guy improved but I don't know how comfortable I am not having a contingency plan. Especially after seeing how much Brees was pressured this year.

SaintLeonard 01-29-2014 07:43 PM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
I really think so. I do agree we need to have a backup plan just in case, but I like Armstead a lot.

jeanpierre 01-29-2014 07:53 PM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
Oh, he's the future at one of the Tackles for sure - how good he will be is another thing...

We spent a second round pick on a Safety that couldn't cover and then compounded the problem by overpaying for him with a bad contract...

If he works hard and we get the coaching, he could be special with that athleticism...

hagan714 01-29-2014 07:56 PM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
so far so good.

need quality pick in the draft and need to get depth on the OL that can slide inside if needed. one thing we lack is versatility on the OL,

ScottF 01-29-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 576208)
so far so good.

need quality pick in the draft and need to get depth on the OL that can slide inside if needed. one thing we lack is versatility on the OL,

if Lelito, Harris, and TA are the future (plus the behemoth we just signed) then I am for bringing in a vet at the minimum for depth and saving a pick.

Seems like every year a guy gets a call at his bartender job and ends up a starter somewhere (Steelers?). Sign one early, or just keep Brown.

From August:
Coach Sean Payton confirmed that Charles Brown has sewn up the starting left tackle job.
Once the pads went on, Brown ran away from athletic rookie Terron Armstead and former No. 2 overall pick Jason Smith. Although he's made just eight career starts, the Saints feel comfortable with Brown on Drew Brees' blind side. "That's one of those positions where no news is usually good news," Payton said. "He's been real consistent."

hagan714 01-29-2014 08:18 PM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
Lelito, Harris,

ok anyone get the warm fuzzies when they took the field? did anyone look forward to them starting the next week and think it was going to be just ok. i am not asking for feeling great here

both still need a ton of work to be servicable

halloween 65 01-29-2014 08:34 PM

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I would draft a bad a$$ Center to make life on that line alot easier.

NonieT 01-29-2014 08:50 PM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 576214)
Lelito, Harris,

ok anyone get the warm fuzzies when they took the field? did anyone look forward to them starting the next week and think it was going to be just ok. i am not asking for feeling great here

both still need a ton of work to be servicable

What about Jones. Did you forget we still have Marcel Jones on the roster? I think we should give him a try at RT tackle. He's got to move better than Strief and I think I read somewhere that he's a great run blocker. The knock on him was that he didn't have enough upper body strength. Well 2 years in the weight room should have taken care of that.

ScottF 01-29-2014 09:08 PM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 576214)
Lelito, Harris,

ok anyone get the warm fuzzies when they took the field? did anyone look forward to them starting the next week and think it was going to be just ok. i am not asking for feeling great here

both still need a ton of work to be servicable

the reason I think that the coaches are high on Harris is that they used him this year like they did Strief the first 2-3 years: tackle-eligible and ST a lot

I think Lelito will be good as well, and might push DLP out the door in training camp

Utah_Saint 01-30-2014 12:47 AM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
He sure looked like it. It's a huge bonus to the team when one of it's biggest weakness becomes a strength. Not having to find a LT in the offseason is like getting an extra draft pick.

Crusader 01-30-2014 01:17 AM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
I am confident he will be a better player than Bushrod was. And Bushrod was no slouch.

TheOak 01-30-2014 07:13 AM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 576184)
Have they seen enough of him to be comfortable penciling him in as the starter next year? If he is the future do we bring in a solid veteran for a year for him to get some experience behind or do we just put him out there. If he's not the future would we be able to find someone in the draft that can instantly come in and start or do we go the FA route?
Personally I like the way the guy improved but I don't know how comfortable I am not having a contingency plan. Especially after seeing how much Brees was pressured this year.

Too early to tell. I suspect what will happen is a few tackles will be brought in to camp and he will compete with the rest of them for that position. If we draft a tackle in any round it will be to come in and compete for depth. Armstead's play at the end of the season doesn't warrant burning a first rounder.

While it does seem it is his to lose, he didn't beat out Brown in camp last year and that does speak to something...

ScottF 01-30-2014 08:34 AM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576262)
Too early to tell. I suspect what will happen is a few tackles will be brought in to camp and he will compete with the rest of them for that position. If we draft a tackle in any round it will be to come in and compete for depth. Armstead's play at the end of the season doesn't warrant burning a first rounder.

While it does seem it is his to lose, he didn't beat out Brown in camp last year and that does speak to something...

Very true. I think with our 'quantity' that we will not draft a tackle, but might see a C. We have Jones, Harris, Nseke?, and maybe Brown. Not sure if any can move to G and lock down a backup spot, but we don't have room for all of them.

dueceloose 01-30-2014 04:20 PM

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I believe that Armstead is the future.. teach him well and let him lead the way.

Danno 01-30-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 576273)
Very true. I think with our 'quantity' that we will not draft a tackle, but might see a C. We have Jones, Harris, Nseke?, and maybe Brown. Not sure if any can move to G and lock down a backup spot, but we don't have room for all of them.

And I remember an interview with Strief when he was hurt last year, they asked about how the Saints would address RT (when we had all those injuries) and he said "look out for Bryce Harris, he's got the potential to become a player in this league".

exile 01-30-2014 05:17 PM

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Yes

Danno 01-30-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 576334)
Yes

Why?

exile 01-30-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 576339)
Why?


He's good.

Danno 01-30-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 576342)
He's good.

Outstanding analysis.

exile 01-30-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 576343)
Outstanding analysis.


Fine. He blocks players he is supposed to block. Doesn't block those that he isn't supposed to block. Like his own lineman.

Danno 01-30-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 576344)
Fine. He blocks players he is supposed to block. Doesn't block those that he isn't supposed to block. Like his own lineman.

Ok, but that describes 90% of NFL linemen. That's like saying Ingram is our future RB because he runs the ball. OK...

exile 01-30-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 576345)
Ok, but that describes 90% of NFL linemen. That's like saying Ingram is our future RB because he runs the ball. OK...


Sarcasm Danno. The guy performed better each game. He's young. Only going to get better. Let's keep him around and let him be the starting LT next year. Focus on improving RT and Center. As on any forum, this is an opinion.

TheOak 01-30-2014 08:26 PM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 576345)
Ok, but that describes 90% of NFL linemen. That's like saying Ingram is our future RB because he runs the ball. OK...


I do believe we have that exact Ingram thread around here somewhere.

The Dude 01-30-2014 09:59 PM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576362)
I do believe we have that exact Ingram thread around here somewhere.

haha

dizzle88 01-31-2014 04:37 AM

Re: Is Armstead the future?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576362)
I do believe we have that exact Ingram thread around here somewhere.

Please don't make someone revive that thread, enough people have already left because its our offseason lol


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