Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back

The Dude · 02-01-2014, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Sap, I'd rather keep that money spent on my favorite, PT, who's already here, established...

At his age, I'm not sure he's got that much left in the tank...

Yea Jones Drew is a relic.

Danno · 02-01-2014, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Yea Jones Drew is a relic.

Not sure if relic applies, but at 29 years old and from what we witnessed in 2013 I'd agree with JP that its certainly questionable how much he has left in the tank.

Utah_Saint · 02-01-2014, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Not sure if relic applies, but at 29 years old and from what we witnessed in 2013 I'd agree with JP that its certainly questionable how much he has left in the tank.

One problem he had in 2013 is that his tank got too big.

The Dude · 02-01-2014, 12:06 AM

I really think Ingram is the odd man out. Robinson is pretty much a cheaper, younger version of him with more of an upside. Ingram has just been too hot and cold and has killed too many drives. He can't get tough yards when there are no holes and turn nothing into something and I think Robinson can. Ingram seemed to do better when Armstead was in I think our line blocked a little better and opened a few more holes during the playoffs. Any back can run through a wide open hole but creating a play is a different story.

jeanpierre · 02-01-2014, 05:43 AM

I've been very critical of the move to select Mark Ingram...

But he looked pretty impressive now that he finally got the timing/hitting the hole thing down...

Payton's gotta decide though whether he trusts him now, and if so, it's time to shift the RB funds to the young guns...

hagan714 · 02-01-2014, 08:54 AM

age age age. not one of the young guns has proven they can produce game in and game out with our 30 year old wonders.

TheOak · 02-02-2014, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

age age age. not one of the young guns has proven they can produce game in and game out with our 30 year old wonders.

Au contraire mon frair. Robinson either kept up or exceeded.

Robinson didn't start getting consistent touches until the end of the season and playoffs, when he did, he was rock solid against some very good defenses.

Week 16 Tampa 4.16 YPC
WCR 1PL Philly 5.63 YPC
DIV 2PL Seattle 4.38 YPC

Week 6 Patriots 7.57 YPC

In some games he ran better than PT

hagan714 · 02-02-2014, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Au contraire mon frair. Robinson either kept up or exceeded.

Robinson didn't start getting consistent touches until the end of the season and playoffs, when he did, he was rock solid against some very good defenses.

Week 16 Tampa 4.16 YPC
WCR 1PL Philly 5.63 YPC
DIV 2PL Seattle 4.38 YPC

Week 6 Patriots 7.57 YPC

In some games he ran better than PT

1 year means nothing. he will get his shot. but as a unit age is becoming an issue.

Who can do what PT and Sproils do? so far none of the young guns have proven themselves as all around backs. that's my point

our war horses excel as third down back the ponies do not. yet

Sproils is a specialty player, a toy, much like Bush, players that mess with defenders heads by just being on the field.

PT does not have that skill set. he is solid and dependable in all facets of his game.

Now that is hard to find also. thats why PT and Darrin are so dangerous on the field together. they compliment each other

TheOak · 02-02-2014, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

1 year means nothing. he will get his shot. but as a unit age is becoming an issue.

Who can do what PT and Sproils do? so far none of the young guns have proven themselves as all around backs. that's my point

our war horses excel as third down back the ponies do not. yet

Sproils is a specialty player, a toy, much like Bush, players that mess with defenders heads by just being on the field.

PT does not have that skill set. he is solid and dependable in all facets of his game.

Now that is hard to find also. thats why PT and Darrin are so dangerous on the field together. they compliment each other

1 game means nothing, a year does. And none of your "war horses" excelled at 3rd down this season. 3rd down success is directly tied to 1st
Down success and we pass first.

Next I should expect 1 contract means nothing?

We don't need all around backs that do 10 things well. We need 1 that runs through people and holes very well.

hagan714 · 02-02-2014, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

1 game means nothing, a year does. And none of your "war horses" excelled at 3rd down this season. 3rd down success is directly tied to 1st
Down success and we pass first.

Next I should expect 1 contract means nothing?

We don't need all around backs that do 10 things well. We need 1 that runs through people and holes very well.

well there goes the screen game and picking up the blitz as a need to make this as a running back.

to many one year wonders in pro ball to hang your hat on any player. proof is with time.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back Originally Posted by jeanpierre Sap, I'd rather keep that money spent on my favorite, PT, who's already here, established... At his age, I'm not sure he's got that much left in the tank... Yea Jones Drew is a relic.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back Originally Posted by The Dude Yea Jones Drew is a relic. Not sure if relic applies, but at 29 years old and from what we witnessed in 2013 I'd agree with JP that its certainly questionable how much he has left in the tank.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back Originally Posted by Danno Not sure if relic applies, but at 29 years old and from what we witnessed in 2013 I'd agree with JP that its certainly questionable how much he has left in the tank. One problem he had in 2013 is that his tank got too big.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back I really think Ingram is the odd man out. Robinson is pretty much a cheaper, younger version of him with more of an upside. Ingram has just been too hot and cold and has killed too many drives. He can't get tough yards when there are no holes and turn nothing into something and I think Robinson can. Ingram seemed to do better when Armstead was in I think our line blocked a little better and opened a few more holes during the playoffs. Any back can run through a wide open hole but creating a play is a different story.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back I've been very critical of the move to select Mark Ingram... But he looked pretty impressive now that he finally got the timing/hitting the hole thing down... Payton's gotta decide though whether he trusts him now, and if so, it's time to shift the RB funds to the young guns...

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back age age age. not one of the young guns has proven they can produce game in and game out with our 30 year old wonders.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back Originally Posted by hagan714 age age age. not one of the young guns has proven they can produce game in and game out with our 30 year old wonders. Au contraire mon frair. Robinson either kept up or exceeded. Robinson didn't start getting consistent touches until the end of the season and playoffs, when he did, he was rock solid against some very good defenses. Week 16 Tampa 4.16 YPC WCR 1PL Philly 5.63 YPC DIV 2PL Seattle 4.38 YPC Week 6 Patriots 7.57 YPC In some games he ran better than PT

02-02-2014, 11:14 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back Originally Posted by TheOak Au contraire mon frair. Robinson either kept up or exceeded. Robinson didn't start getting consistent touches until the end of the season and playoffs, when he did, he was rock solid against some very good defenses. Week 16 Tampa 4.16 YPC WCR 1PL Philly 5.63 YPC DIV 2PL Seattle 4.38 YPC Week 6 Patriots 7.57 YPC In some games he ran better than PT 1 year means nothing. he will get his shot. but as a unit age is becoming an issue. Who can do what PT and Sproils do? so far none of the young guns have proven themselves as all around backs. that's my point our war horses excel as third down back the ponies do not. yet Sproils is a specialty player, a toy, much like Bush, players that mess with defenders heads by just being on the field. PT does not have that skill set. he is solid and dependable in all facets of his game. Now that is hard to find also. thats why PT and Darrin are so dangerous on the field together. they compliment each other
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back Originally Posted by hagan714 1 year means nothing. he will get his shot. but as a unit age is becoming an issue. Who can do what PT and Sproils do? so far none of the young guns have proven themselves as all around backs. that's my point our war horses excel as third down back the ponies do not. yet Sproils is a specialty player, a toy, much like Bush, players that mess with defenders heads by just being on the field. PT does not have that skill set. he is solid and dependable in all facets of his game. Now that is hard to find also. thats why PT and Darrin are so dangerous on the field together. they compliment each other 1 game means nothing, a year does. And none of your "war horses" excelled at 3rd down this season. 3rd down success is directly tied to 1st Down success and we pass first. Next I should expect 1 contract means nothing? We don't need all around backs that do 10 things well. We need 1 that runs through people and holes very well.

02-02-2014, 11:42 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ranking Saints needs: No. 11 Running back Originally Posted by TheOak 1 game means nothing, a year does. And none of your "war horses" excelled at 3rd down this season. 3rd down success is directly tied to 1st Down success and we pass first. Next I should expect 1 contract means nothing? We don't need all around backs that do 10 things well. We need 1 that runs through people and holes very well. well there goes the screen game and picking up the blitz as a need to make this as a running back. to many one year wonders in pro ball to hang your hat on any player. proof is with time.

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