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Schmohams 02-01-2014 07:53 PM

Morten Anderson not included in Hall of Fame
 
Yet another year passes by when the NFL all-time leading scorer misses the Hall of Fame, is this some kind of joke?

Instead these players made it:

Michael Strahan
Derrick Brooks
Andre Reed
Walter Jones
Derrick Brooks
Aeneas Williams
Claude Humphrey
Ray Guy

Come on guys, Kickers are people too! What else must a kicker do to make it into the Hall, kick a FG from 80 yards back? I'm disappointed but I'm not pulling my hair out. Lets just hope he makes here in the next year or two.

exile 02-01-2014 08:14 PM

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Cool that Ray Guy made it though. Finally. Morten will make it next year.

RailBoss 02-01-2014 08:33 PM

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Hope your right exile he truly was an amazing kicker and he deserves
to go in. I remember Cha-Ching! like it was yesterday !

TheOak 02-02-2014 05:22 AM

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Perhapse we are looking in the wrong region for our place kicker?

Jan Stenerud - Only pure place kicker in the NFL HoF.
Morten Anderson - Arguably the second pure place kicker that should be in the NFL HoF.


Jan Stenerud birth town Fetsund Norway.
Morten Anderson birth town Copenhagen Denmark.

These two were born 380 miles from each other but 3700 miles from the closest American Football.

Crusader 02-02-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576595)
These two were born 380 miles from each other but 3700 miles from the closest American Football.

No Football has been played in both those countries for quite some time. On a completely different level than the NFL thou.

jeanpierre 02-02-2014 08:58 AM

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If Morten had played for the Jets, he'd been elected to the Hall five years after his retirement...

What a f***ing embarrassment to the "shield"...

jlouhill 02-02-2014 10:10 AM

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I'm sure he'll get in. Should be on this list though. Ray Guy should have already been in there.

bobdog86 02-02-2014 10:50 AM

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Hell, Guy last played in 86 and just now finally made it. Right or wrong, as a kicker or punter, it takes time. You realistically just have to expect it, period. He'll get in, not as quick as we'd like, but I'm sure he'll get in, and probably not soon enough. The HOF is weird, those you'd think would, aren't in or takes a long time, and then there's always some that do make it,,,, that you'd think shouldn't.

hagan714 02-02-2014 10:55 AM

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HOF is all about the rings early on. after that it is extremely hard to get in the longer you are over looked. at times i wonder if the voters really understand the game at all

jeanpierre 02-02-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 576614)
Hell, Guy last played in 86 and just now finally made it. Right or wrong, as a kicker or punter, it takes time. You realistically just have to expect it, period. He'll get in, not as quick as we'd like, but I'm sure he'll get in, and probably not soon enough. The HOF is weird, those you'd think would, aren't in or takes a long time, and then there's always some that do make it,,,, that you'd think shouldn't.

bobdog, Morten Andersen is the All-Time Scorer for the NFL...

...the NFL's All-Time Leading Scorer...

And he wasn't just any kicker, he was hitting scores from 50+ yards regularly...

Paired with that incredible defense, he brought the Saints out of purgatory to respectability...

If we'd had a Sean Payton caliber coach then, I have no doubt we'd seen 65+ yard scores as well...

Ask NFL alum "of all eras, if you can pick one kicker to kick a fifty yard field goal attempt to win a game for your team, who would it be?"

Morten Andersen is a Hall of Famer, even if he screwed the fan base by going to Atlanta when trying to stick it to Benson & Co. for stupidly letting him geaux...

Utah_Saint 02-02-2014 11:11 AM

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The leading scorer in the history of NFL is not in the Hall of Fame.

The only person in the history of the game to be the leading scorer for two different teams.

And the reason he isn't in the Hall is because he was a kicker in a game called football.

It's almost too stupid to believe.

RaginCajun83 02-02-2014 11:57 AM

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What did Aeneas Williams do that was HoF worthy? Looks like they are starting to let just about any and all get inducted

bobdog86 02-02-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 576619)
bobdog, Morten Andersen is the All-Time Scorer for the NFL...

...the NFL's All-Time Leading Scorer...

And he wasn't just any kicker, he was hitting scores from 50+ yards regularly...

Paired with that incredible defense, he brought the Saints out of purgatory to respectability...

If we'd had a Sean Payton caliber coach then, I have no doubt we'd seen 65+ yard scores as well...

Ask NFL alum "of all eras, if you can pick one kicker to kick a fifty yard field goal attempt to win a game for your team, who would it be?"

Morten Andersen is a Hall of Famer, even if he screwed the fan base by going to Atlanta when trying to stick it to Benson & Co. for stupidly letting him geaux...

No arguments from me my brutha, I totally agree, just stating what I've noticed from the HOF process. I believe he should have been a first ballot no-brainer, but it doesn't surprise me that he's not…with the history of the Hall.

frydaddy 02-02-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 576632)
What did Aeneas Williams do that was HoF worthy? Looks like they are starting to let just about any and all get inducted

Have to disagree with you there my friend. Aeneas Williams was an all pro several years, and made tons of pro bowls too. He was a shutdown corner and a playmaker. He lead the league in interceptions twice and consistently played at a high level all the way up until he retired. He definitely deserves to be there.

TheOak 02-02-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 576600)
If Morten had played for the Jets, he'd been elected to the Hall five years after his retirement...

What a f***ing embarrassment to the "shield"...


He played for NY... Giants.
And Atlanta
And Kansas
And Minnesota

He played some where else nearly just as long as he played in New Orleans -1 year.

His 50+ yard accuracy was 47%.

TheOak 02-02-2014 12:40 PM

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Anderson isn't in because the records he holds took 25 seasons to get and in those 25 seasons he didn't own any or many single season records.

TheOak 02-02-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 576632)
What did Aeneas Williams do that was HoF worthy? Looks like they are starting to let just about any and all get inducted


Yea.. He sucked.

Williams, a four-time All-Pro and eight-time Pro Bowl selection, intercepted 55 passes for 807 yards and 9 touchdowns during a 14-season career with the Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals and St. Louis Rams. - See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/enshri....DAOHqw4z.dpuf

K Major 02-02-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 576632)
What did Aeneas Williams do that was HoF worthy? Looks like they are starting to let just about any and all get inducted

You may want to read that link Oak sent regarding Aeneas Williams career stats & his HOF worthiness.

jeanpierre 02-02-2014 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 576632)
What did Aeneas Williams do that was HoF worthy? Looks like they are starting to let just about any and all get inducted

Hold on there Ragin, never mind that Aeneas Williams is from New Orleans and dominated at Southern because LSU had morons running the show then...

This guy dominated on an awful team, Jerry Rice, Herman Moore, Tim Brown, Sterling Sharpe had pedestrian days when they played the Cards...

Like Archie, Aeneas was an elite talent stuck in an awful organization...

Vrillon82 02-03-2014 12:24 AM

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I only recognize half the names on that list, ones I do I dont even know if they deserved to be in it over Andersen.

my take. Even Strahan is questionable IMO this early on.

exiled 02-03-2014 02:20 AM

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knock me over with a feather... I thought Ray Guy was already in YOU MEAN HE WAS NOT! lets see in 75 years of Football not one punter - not even Ray Guy? - Kickers (punters) are dissed from the HOF.

Morten Andersen is the All-Time Scorer for the NFL. Please - I want I really want to respect the HOF. It SHOULD mean something - and glaring oversites like this belittle the entire institution and make us all smaller somehow.

(OK take it with a grain of salt - i have a kicker bias.)

SaintFanInATLHELL 02-04-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 576617)
HOF is all about the rings early on. after that it is extremely hard to get in the longer you are over looked. at times i wonder if the voters really understand the game at all

Can't be all about the rings. Charles Haley has 5. In fact the only person in NFL history with 5 rings IIRC. Dude cannot seem to get a sniff of the HOF. Sad really.

SFIAH

TheOak 02-04-2014 12:21 PM

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Hall of Fame is about overall career accolade(s), and accomplishment(s). It is, and needs to remain about more than 1 things to get in.

If you put Anderson in now, and someone plays for 30 years and brakes his record, he becomes a severely diluted member of the HoF.

Throw books all you want but Andersons's record, Favre's records, are iron man records and not an indication of impressive skill. Just indicative of playing a very long time.

Should Drew Brees get into the HoF just for breaking Marino's record? No he shouldn't, it should be about body of work.

Should Matt Prater be in the Hall of Fame for 1 kick? As soon as someone kicks a 65 yard FG he becomes merely an after thought.

Danno 02-04-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 576688)
Hold on there Ragin, never mind that Aeneas Williams is from New Orleans and dominated at Southern because LSU had morons running the show then...

This guy dominated on an awful team, Jerry Rice, Herman Moore, Tim Brown, Sterling Sharpe had pedestrian days when they played the Cards...

Like Archie, Aeneas was an elite talent stuck in an awful organization...

I love what Buddy Ryan said about Williams. Paraphrasing... "You all think the best CB in this league is Deion Sanders? The best CB in this league plays in Arizona, and he can tackle".

73Saint 02-04-2014 12:51 PM

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No way he was getting in before Guy...

Vrillon82 02-04-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 576986)
Hall of Fame is about overall career accolade(s), and accomplishment(s). It is, and needs to remain about more than 1 things to get in.

If you put Anderson in now, and someone plays for 30 years and brakes his record, he becomes a severely diluted member of the HoF.

Throw books all you want but Andersons's record, Favre's records, are iron man records and not an indication of impressive skill. Just indicative of playing a very long time.

Should Drew Brees get into the HoF just for breaking Marino's record? No he shouldn't, it should be about body of work.

Should Matt Prater be in the Hall of Fame for 1 kick? As soon as someone kicks a 65 yard FG he becomes merely an after thought.


Honestly everyone has forgotten Praters kick. Dempseys kick will be remembered and was remembered for decades.

I think the fact 2 of the longest FG's made in the last 10-15 years came from the thin Denver air is why its pretty much swept under the rug. If either kick was in New Orleans below sea level, neither one would of made it.


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