Should Drew Play for Less $$ ?

alleycat_126 · 02-03-2014, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

How many QB's have played in a S.B. since Drew? (8)

How many QB's have WON a S.B. since Drew? (4)

He aint all that.

Alaska

Alaska.... Russell Wison didn't win this game, he just didn't lose it.... As evidence by the 219 yards, 2 tds, and no ints game he gives them while they hand the MVP to MIKE SMITH??? Check these factors maybe they will bring you back to this planet..., turnover ratio..., rushing attempts ( just who had more attempts) red zone defense..... Third down conversion... If you check every one of those I think you'll find that the running qb didn't do anything more than the cerebral qb did....... Calm down....lol

saintsfan403 · 02-03-2014, 01:22 AM

Those winning QBs excluding Wilson:
Aaron Rodgers
Eli Manning
Joe Flacco

AlaskaSaints · 02-03-2014, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

Those winning QBs excluding Wilson:
Aaron Rodgers
Eli Manning
Joe Flacco

Point - Match

Alaska

saintsfan403 · 02-03-2014, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Point - Match

Alaska

What? I'll accept Rodgers as a mobile qb but Manning and Flacco are prototype pocket passers while all of them definitely have a strong pocket presence.
And are you suggesting that because Brees hasn't won the show more than once in 4 years he "ain't all that"? There's not even a repeat conference champ among that list of QBs and two haven't even made it to the post-season following their championships.

alleycat_126 · 02-03-2014, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

A ten-year-old kid can lead a team to the Super Bowl if he can run occasionally.

As evidenced tonight.

The day of the cerebral QB is OVER.

Alaska

The street sign on the block you are walking on reads overreaction alley......

hagan714 · 02-03-2014, 02:42 AM

oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao

one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing.

* copy and paste *

lee909 · 02-03-2014, 02:32 AM

The Seahawks have a cheap QB, we have have Jordan, Galette, Graham and Hicks on tbe cheap.Swings in roundabouts

hagan714 · 02-03-2014, 02:44 AM

oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao

one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing.

* copy and paste *

I say take the money and run till you can restruture so it does not hurt the team. feed the kids, take your be

oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao

one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing.

take the money and run
take your beautiful wife to bed
make more kids
enjoy the pay day

halloween 65 · 02-03-2014, 08:25 AM

Every contract should have incentives for play. Reach this get x amount, complete this get x, would you pay 100 million to 1 person on a bad team, I wouldn't, it limits things immediatly. Going rate is going rate what else do you do.

TheOak · 02-03-2014, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Every contract should have incentives for play. Reach this get x amount, complete this get x, would you pay 100 million to 1 person on a bad team, I wouldn't, it limits things immediatly. Going rate is going rate what else do you do.

So then if you are not paying 100m to grab a difference makes to take your team out of the ashes how are you going to get him there?

While putting performance bonuses on play is fine in theory in practice it drives the wrong behaviors for a few reasons.

1. A coach can kill someones bonus just by not playing him to save cap space.
2. It will cause players to go public if they feel like they missed their bonus because of a bad officiating call or someone else got more playing time.
3. Owners will pressure coaches to keep the cap down intentionally.

View Poll Results: Should Drew play for less money.
No, he earned his contract.	15	44.12%
Yes,if he cared about the team he'd play for less than he's worth.	14	41.18%
Yes, he doesn't deserve to be payed like an elite QB.	2	5.88%
No, he should think about his and his family's future and get every peny he can get.	3	8.82%
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02-03-2014, 09:28 AM	#1
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Drew Re - Structuring Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints How many QB's have played in a S.B. since Drew? (8) How many QB's have WON a S.B. since Drew? (4) He aint all that. Alaska Alaska.... Russell Wison didn't win this game, he just didn't lose it.... As evidence by the 219 yards, 2 tds, and no ints game he gives them while they hand the MVP to MIKE SMITH??? Check these factors maybe they will bring you back to this planet..., turnover ratio..., rushing attempts ( just who had more attempts) red zone defense..... Third down conversion... If you check every one of those I think you'll find that the running qb didn't do anything more than the cerebral qb did....... Calm down....lol

02-03-2014, 01:22 AM	#2
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Drew Re - Structuring Those winning QBs excluding Wilson: Aaron Rodgers Eli Manning Joe Flacco

02-03-2014, 01:38 AM	#3
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Drew Re - Structuring Originally Posted by saintsfan403 Those winning QBs excluding Wilson: Aaron Rodgers Eli Manning Joe Flacco Point - Match Alaska

02-03-2014, 01:44 AM	#4
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Drew Re - Structuring Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Point - Match Alaska What? I'll accept Rodgers as a mobile qb but Manning and Flacco are prototype pocket passers while all of them definitely have a strong pocket presence. And are you suggesting that because Brees hasn't won the show more than once in 4 years he "ain't all that"? There's not even a repeat conference champ among that list of QBs and two haven't even made it to the post-season following their championships.

02-03-2014, 01:53 AM	#5
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Drew Re - Structuring Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints A ten-year-old kid can lead a team to the Super Bowl if he can run occasionally. As evidenced tonight. The day of the cerebral QB is OVER. Alaska The street sign on the block you are walking on reads overreaction alley...... jnormand, SASaintsfan and saintsfan403 like this.

02-03-2014, 02:42 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Drew Re - Structuring oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing. * copy and paste * alleycat_126 and lee909 like this.

02-03-2014, 02:32 AM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Should Drew Play for Less $$ ? The Seahawks have a cheap QB, we have have Jordan, Galette, Graham and Hicks on tbe cheap.Swings in roundabouts alleycat_126, woody and SASaintsfan like this.

02-03-2014, 02:44 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Should Drew Play for Less $$ ? oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing. * copy and paste * I say take the money and run till you can restruture so it does not hurt the team. feed the kids, take your be oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing. take the money and run take your beautiful wife to bed make more kids enjoy the pay day
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02-03-2014, 08:25 AM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Should Drew Play for Less $$ ? Every contract should have incentives for play. Reach this get x amount, complete this get x, would you pay 100 million to 1 person on a bad team, I wouldn't, it limits things immediatly. Going rate is going rate what else do you do.

02-03-2014, 09:32 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Should Drew Play for Less $$ ? Originally Posted by halloween 65 Every contract should have incentives for play. Reach this get x amount, complete this get x, would you pay 100 million to 1 person on a bad team, I wouldn't, it limits things immediatly. Going rate is going rate what else do you do. So then if you are not paying 100m to grab a difference makes to take your team out of the ashes how are you going to get him there? While putting performance bonuses on play is fine in theory in practice it drives the wrong behaviors for a few reasons. 1. A coach can kill someones bonus just by not playing him to save cap space. 2. It will cause players to go public if they feel like they missed their bonus because of a bad officiating call or someone else got more playing time. 3. Owners will pressure coaches to keep the cap down intentionally.
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