Should Drew Play for Less $$ ?
 

Every thread that mentions Brees is guaranteed to include several posts that blame him for future failures because he makes too much for the team to be able to afford Super Bowl level talent elsewhere.

So lets see what the general consensus is. Should Drew play for less money even though there are lesser QBs making more than him.

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If the Saints didn't pay him another team would!

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I feel no athlete is worth 20 million a year, but sadly that's where the NFL is at these days...

Just think of the team we would have if Drew was capped at say 11 million a year? :bng:

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Can't blame the system, if I was asked to work for less at my current job, I'd start my job w/ the competition the next day. Cuz, they'd pay me. As long as all 32 teams have the same rules, then it is, what it is. Always someone willing to pay more,,,,,as long as you have value. And RIP Phillip S-Hoffman, bad news…..drugs are bad.

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To me, the question isn't that simple.

Just my opinion, but Drew deserves his contract, it is fair market value and more than half the league would be tripping over themselves to make offers if the Saints didn't. The Saints built their offense around his talents.

That being said, his contract does reduce the amount of money the team has to spend on other players and when one player receives 1/6 of the total salary for a 53 man roster, that player will always be brought up when discussing free agent possibilities. I even pointed out the irony of Drew dancing on the desk saying he wanted Jimmy back, when the issue is how much can we spend on him.

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Drew has earned his contract I don't think you can question that.
The only way I can see him restructuring his contract is voluntarily
for whatever reasons he decides.

Should Drew Play for Less $$ ?
 

Market price is market price. It is set by those that pay market price, not by those that can't afford it. Lobster and QBs are not too different in that respect.

Just like that lobster some people choke and b**** when they see the price, and have the hamburger steak; some people pay and eat lobster. Because the market is not flooded with lobster they will all be bought and consumed regardless of how you feel about it's price.


Price, value, and cost are rarely the same dollar figure.

Drew will be paid $18-$20m/year by someone. I'd prefer to not face him any week of the season.


Anyone here going to give his boss back 20% on Monday?

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Why don't you feel that Brees deserves his contract?

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I do think he deserves it.

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I'm not saying he should... But if he was willing to give money back then i'd have to raise my respect meter to fit him in there.

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No way. He deserves every penny.

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Polls blow

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so do falcons.

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Drew isn't dumb enough to take a paycut. A pay increase is more likely

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So I've heard.

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I say he's earned it like Manning, Brady, Rogers(when he has to sign)
He's totally up there with his peers
I thought his contract was going to cripple us but look at New England...
they seem to make it work. I'd even be willing to say they have far less talent than us

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Sucks that Seattle just won a Super Bowl with a QB making under $1 million/year. They'll have him next year for under million too because he can't hold out for a new contract until after the 2014 season. Sure, things will go to s*** salary cap wise for the Seahawks once guys like Wilson and Sherman can get new contracts... But damn, it must be nice to have your best players be making peanuts.

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Agreed, but it's the same personnel/draft/CBA system every team plays under. Wilson wasn't the first QB taken in his draft. Seahawks drafted a dandy. And Seattle will have a lot of tough decisions in the next couple of years. They have already come out and said Earl Thomas will get his money before R. Sherman, so it's gonna get interesting. No doubt. Seattle's done well at getting veterans on one year deals, and have guys still in their rookie contracts, so it will get tough for them. But yeah, best players getting peanuts blows, but it is the exception, not the norm.

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Tell that to Seattle

Drew Re - Structuring
 

A ten-year-old kid can lead a team to the Super Bowl if he can run occasionally.

As evidenced tonight.

The day of the cerebral QB is OVER.

Alaska

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Wilson is just as cerebral as Brees if not he will be one day so ur statement is false.

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Okay. Now compare Wilson's running yards to Drew's running yards and get back to me.

Drew and Peyton are TOO cerebral, and incapable of just tucking and running a football when necessary, because "there has to be something out there that I'm missing, i think I will just toss it up."

Alaska

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I'm pretty sure that everyone said the exact opposite after the archetype mobil QB lost the Super Bowl last year...

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How many QB's have played in a S.B. since Drew? (8)

How many QB's have WON a S.B. since Drew? (4)

He aint all that.

Alaska

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Those winning QBs excluding Wilson:
Aaron Rodgers
Eli Manning
Joe Flacco

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Point - Match

Alaska

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What? I'll accept Rodgers as a mobile qb but Manning and Flacco are prototype pocket passers while all of them definitely have a strong pocket presence.
And are you suggesting that because Brees hasn't won the show more than once in 4 years he "ain't all that"? There's not even a repeat conference champ among that list of QBs and two haven't even made it to the post-season following their championships.

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The street sign on the block you are walking on reads overreaction alley......

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LOL..... I laugh when people look at the Seahawks and Niners and say that they are killing it because the QBs are making basement dollars... and don't remember the whole story... Russell Wilson wasn't the Seahawks qb... Matt Flynn was, and he got paid big money... And he lost a competition to Wilson... Alex Smith got paid 15 million dollars ( I believe ) the season before Kaepernick took over and if not for an injury might even still be he Niners QB its as much about luck as it is anything else.

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The Seahawks have a cheap QB, we have have Jordan, Galette, Graham and Hicks on tbe cheap.Swings in roundabouts

Re: Drew Re - Structuring
 

oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao

one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing.

* copy and paste *

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:deadhorse2:

oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao

one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing.

* copy and paste * :deadhorse2:

I say take the money and run till you can restruture so it does not hurt the team. feed the kids, take your be:deadhorse2:

oh the pains of a 100 million dollar QB lmao

one more year then drew will step to plate and do the team thing.

take the money and run
take your beautiful wife to bed
make more kids
enjoy the pay day

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Every contract should have incentives for play. Reach this get x amount, complete this get x, would you pay 100 million to 1 person on a bad team, I wouldn't, it limits things immediatly. Going rate is going rate what else do you do.

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So restructuring raises your respect level but

Immersing yourself into the culture and climate of a city....
Building a brand that will be the standard for years to come
Bringing them success, and a Super Bowl ring...
None of these things constitute as respect earners?

BTW........ Either way this goes he's not giving anything back, taking upfront money and getting off the cap is further delaying the fact that we have to pay for what we got from him which was and is over exceeding expectations!!!!

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Alaska.... Russell Wison didn't win this game, he just didn't lose it.... As evidence by the 219 yards, 2 tds, and no ints game he gives them while they hand the MVP to MIKE SMITH??? Check these factors maybe they will bring you back to this planet..., turnover ratio..., rushing attempts ( just who had more attempts) red zone defense..... Third down conversion... If you check every one of those I think you'll find that the running qb didn't do anything more than the cerebral qb did....... Calm down....lol

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So then if you are not paying 100m to grab a difference makes to take your team out of the ashes how are you going to get him there?

While putting performance bonuses on play is fine in theory in practice it drives the wrong behaviors for a few reasons.

1. A coach can kill someones bonus just by not playing him to save cap space.
2. It will cause players to go public if they feel like they missed their bonus because of a bad officiating call or someone else got more playing time.
3. Owners will pressure coaches to keep the cap down intentionally.

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That is your view which is based on where you are financially.

Its the difference between someone entering a career path that can end in 5 years and crippled having enough money to not have to flip burgers at Wendys.

You assume what people with 20m would do with it. Show any evidence at all that Drew Brees has any of the things you listed? And if he does what is it any concern of yours?

"More than enough" is an extremely nearsighted view. There is no "more than enough", when it comes to me ensuring that my children and their children for generations to come have college paid for and never having to work pay check to pay check.

Voting to take a cut in pay with no guarantee of winning is a fools bet, and fools and their money easily part.

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Let's see if this changes peoples view on value and market pricing.

Forget that $100M is someone's paycheck.... That makes it way too personal and hits too close to home for some to look at it the way it should.

Scenario:

Your company of 3 people (you, your wife and your daughter) invented a widget/technology; and you own the IP (intellectual property), patent, copy right, etc...

That widget/technology cost you $500 to produce.

Major corporation X is interested in buying it from you, company name, IP and all. You know and can prove that your widget/technology will save them $400 million over the next 4 years.

Keep in mind, once you sell it, you are done with it; you , your wife and daughter are unemployed.

What is your asking price for that widget/technology and your company?

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I would lease it to them and charge $1 per $10 saved perpetually.

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