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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by alleycat_126 In a discussion of guys where I work, different teams fans... Houston, Philly, New Orleans and Dallas..... A comment came up from someone I would call my friend.... He got to talking about the Saints defense ...

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Old 02-04-2014, 11:56 AM   #1
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Re: Saints Defense... Is this a fair assessment?

Originally Posted by alleycat_126 View Post
In a discussion of guys where I work, different teams fans... Houston, Philly, New Orleans and Dallas..... A comment came up from someone I would call my friend.... He got to talking about the Saints defense and he said something that stuck with me. I didn't know whether to slap him or hug him for placing that thought in my head. Straight quote.... "The Saints defense is talented, and disciplined... but not talented enough to take big risks yet<<<<< I understood him to mean like jumping routes, playing rouge, forcing more turnovers etc.......

Is that a fair assessment of the Defense... Yes or No?
I think history would argue that its not fair, and to lump the entire defense into that statement isn't fair either.

2009 25th ranked defense <--- wound suggest not very talented.
Sharper - 9 INTs (very talented)
Porter - Jumped Payton Manning's route (not an extremely talented corner back)

2013 4th ranked defense - We have a lot more speakable talent in this defense than we had in 2009. Lewis, Gallette, Jordan, Vaccaro.

I would have said "The Saints defense is talented and disciplined, just not confident enough at key positions to be opportunistic. "
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Re: Saints Defense... Is this a fair assessment?

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I think history would argue that its not fair, and to lump the entire defense into that statement isn't fair either.

2009 25th ranked defense <--- wound suggest not very talented.
Sharper - 9 INTs (very talented)
Porter - Jumped Payton Manning's route (not an extremely talented corner back)"
That would be true but that doesn't tell the whole story in 09 we gave everybody 40+ All of those defensive stats are padded from garbage time if we didn't sh__ on everyone i'm sure the defense would have buckled down and ranked top 5 they knew how to get off the field on 1st down 2nd down and 3rd down i would argue the colts 09 team was better then the bronco's '13 team we shut them down, i won't argue that our 09 defense was better then seattle's '13
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Re: Saints Defense... Is this a fair assessment?

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That would be true but that doesn't tell the whole story in 09 we gave everybody 40+ All of those defensive stats are padded from garbage time if we didn't sh__ on everyone i'm sure the defense would have buckled down and ranked top 5 they knew how to get off the field on 1st down 2nd down and 3rd down i would argue the colts 09 team was better then the bronco's '13 team we shut them down, i won't argue that our 09 defense was better then seattle's '13

I even knew the colts were better, the team had more heart than the broncos. Manning made a terrible choice.
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