2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills

03-30-2014, 05:58 PM

I think Billyt81 may be Nick Toon, just sayin

hagan714 · 03-30-2014, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

It will be an interesting camp battle. Stills filled Joseph Morgan's spot after Morgan was lost for the season.
I doubt Meachem will be back and I don't know what's going on with Moore and Toon.

I feel that Stills had an exceptional year for a 5th round rookie.

i do not see much of a battle. kenny is not a mad streaker running down the field like morgan. morgan does not run the middle of the field like kenny.

both on the field at the same time is a very nice complement.

hagan714 · 03-30-2014, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Schmohams

I think Billyt81 may be Nick Toon, just sayin

tell ya what if toon wakes up this can be a nice start to rebuilding the wr corp. as of now toon is on the bubble. drops get you cut

nycsaintfan · 03-30-2014, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Thats all you see?

I see a guy that burned darelle revis
A guy that caught what should have been the winning TD pass between 2 defenders in new england
caught a pass one handed behind someones back and then faked a pro bowl CB out of his shoes for a TD

I only saw him run one fade route all season and brees overthrew it, yeah stills ran a lot of deep routes but he also was used on a lot of crossing routes

plus - a rookie leading the league in yards per reception and having one of the best catch rates in the NFL, whats not to be excited about?

I'd like to see both Stills and Colston used in the slot more often this season. But, I agree with your assessment of Stills. I think he can still improve, but I'm not sure if his ceiling is that much higher than where he is now. With that said I think he will be as productive or more productive than say Devery was as our number 2 receiver moving forward.

TheOak · 03-31-2014, 11:38 AM

Stills ceiling is a little higher than most feel. Not that I think he becomes amazingly better in 2014 than he was in 2013, but Payton will have something to game plan around and optimize his usage.

In 2013 he tied Meachem and lead the team in YPC @ 20. In YAC/reception (Yards after catch) he lead the team @ 6.1, Meachem 5.1, Graham 4.9, Colston 3.2..

Bottom line is that Stills is as productive as hell when thrown to, he has proven that of all of our receivers he gains the most yards after the catch.

halloween 65 · 03-31-2014, 11:59 AM

For a 5th round pick he has did real well, being in this system another season he will only get more comfortable and better. Stills is hungry and thats a good thing.

TheOak · 03-31-2014, 02:57 PM

I keep hearing that Stills doesn't have Morgan speed... Or that Morgan possesses great speed that no one else on the team has.

Can someone explain that interpretation? I must be reading the numbers wrong, but isn't lower faster?

K. Stills 4.32 40yd / 2.49 20yd
J. Morgan 4.4 40yd / 2.61 20 yd

Danno · 03-31-2014, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I keep hearing that Stills doesn't have Morgan speed... Or that Morgan possesses great speed that no one else on the team has.

Can someone explain that interpretation? I must be reading the numbers wrong, but isn't lower faster?
K. Stills 4.32 40yd / 2.49 20yd
J. Morgan 4.4 40yd / 2.61 20 yd

I was guilty. I thought Stills had 4.5'ish speed until one of our esteemed members smacked me upside the head with that 4.32 stat.

He's fast.

TheOak · 03-31-2014, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I was guilty. I thought Stills had 4.5'ish speed until one of our esteemed members smacked me upside the head with that 4.32 stat.

He's fast.

It's not one source..... I've heard it multiple times from multiple sources. I commented once in the Morgan thread but it fell on deaf ears.

Fastest guy on the team with the least drops in 2013 his rookie season. That combination is very difficult to not find huge value and upside in.

Boutte · 03-31-2014, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

It's not one source..... I've heard it multiple times from multiple sources. I commented once in the Morgan thread but it fell on deaf ears.

Fastest guy on the team with the least drops in 2013 his rookie season. That combination is very difficult to not find huge value and upside in.

Apparently not that difficult. A guy could score forty TDs in a season for us somebody here would criticize him for not being a good pass blocker or some stupid ****.

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03-30-2014, 06:33 PM	#32
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills Originally Posted by iceshack149 It will be an interesting camp battle. Stills filled Joseph Morgan's spot after Morgan was lost for the season. I doubt Meachem will be back and I don't know what's going on with Moore and Toon. I feel that Stills had an exceptional year for a 5th round rookie. i do not see much of a battle. kenny is not a mad streaker running down the field like morgan. morgan does not run the middle of the field like kenny. both on the field at the same time is a very nice complement.

03-30-2014, 06:35 PM	#33
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills Originally Posted by Schmohams I think Billyt81 may be Nick Toon, just sayin tell ya what if toon wakes up this can be a nice start to rebuilding the wr corp. as of now toon is on the bubble. drops get you cut

03-30-2014, 06:38 PM	#34
nycsaintfan 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 165	Re: 2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills Originally Posted by dizzle88 Thats all you see? I see a guy that burned darelle revis A guy that caught what should have been the winning TD pass between 2 defenders in new england caught a pass one handed behind someones back and then faked a pro bowl CB out of his shoes for a TD I only saw him run one fade route all season and brees overthrew it, yeah stills ran a lot of deep routes but he also was used on a lot of crossing routes plus - a rookie leading the league in yards per reception and having one of the best catch rates in the NFL, whats not to be excited about? I'd like to see both Stills and Colston used in the slot more often this season. But, I agree with your assessment of Stills. I think he can still improve, but I'm not sure if his ceiling is that much higher than where he is now. With that said I think he will be as productive or more productive than say Devery was as our number 2 receiver moving forward.
nycsaintfan 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 165

03-31-2014, 11:38 AM	#35
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: 2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills Stills ceiling is a little higher than most feel. Not that I think he becomes amazingly better in 2014 than he was in 2013, but Payton will have something to game plan around and optimize his usage. In 2013 he tied Meachem and lead the team in YPC @ 20. In YAC/reception (Yards after catch) he lead the team @ 6.1, Meachem 5.1, Graham 4.9, Colston 3.2.. Bottom line is that Stills is as productive as hell when thrown to, he has proven that of all of our receivers he gains the most yards after the catch. dizzle88 likes this.
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03-31-2014, 02:57 PM	#37
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: 2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills I keep hearing that Stills doesn't have Morgan speed... Or that Morgan possesses great speed that no one else on the team has. Can someone explain that interpretation? I must be reading the numbers wrong, but isn't lower faster? K. Stills 4.32 40yd / 2.49 20yd J. Morgan 4.4 40yd / 2.61 20 yd Danno likes this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: 2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills Originally Posted by TheOak I keep hearing that Stills doesn't have Morgan speed... Or that Morgan possesses great speed that no one else on the team has. Can someone explain that interpretation? I must be reading the numbers wrong, but isn't lower faster? K. Stills 4.32 40yd / 2.49 20yd J. Morgan 4.4 40yd / 2.61 20 yd I was guilty. I thought Stills had 4.5'ish speed until one of our esteemed members smacked me upside the head with that 4.32 stat. He's fast.

03-31-2014, 03:24 PM	#39
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: 2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills Originally Posted by Danno I was guilty. I thought Stills had 4.5'ish speed until one of our esteemed members smacked me upside the head with that 4.32 stat. He's fast. It's not one source..... I've heard it multiple times from multiple sources. I commented once in the Morgan thread but it fell on deaf ears. Fastest guy on the team with the least drops in 2013 his rookie season. That combination is very difficult to not find huge value and upside in. dizzle88 likes this.

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: 2013 New Orleans Saints Rookie Review: Wide Receiver Kenny Stills Originally Posted by TheOak It's not one source..... I've heard it multiple times from multiple sources. I commented once in the Morgan thread but it fell on deaf ears. Fastest guy on the team with the least drops in 2013 his rookie season. That combination is very difficult to not find huge value and upside in. Apparently not that difficult. A guy could score forty TDs in a season for us somebody here would criticize him for not being a good pass blocker or some stupid ****. Danno likes this.

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