Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma)

TheOak · 02-13-2014, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

He slowed down these past couple of years but Smith was a solid player and a leader on the defense.

Will Smith career has been a roller coaster, and I have to ask just how many defensive leaders have we had? Every time someone leaves or is in danger of leaving he is labeled a leader.

Will Smith
Johnathan Vilma
Scott Fujita
Curtis Lofton
Scott Shanle
....
..
..

They were all on the same team at the same time. We had a crap load of leadership for the worst defense in 2012.

K Major · 02-13-2014, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Will Smith career has been a roller coaster, and I have to ask just how many defensive leaders have we had? Every time someone leaves or is in danger of leaving he is labeled a leader.

Will Smith
Johnathan Vilma
Scott Fujita
Curtis Lofton
Scott Shanle
....
..
..

They were all on the same team at the same time. We had a crap load of leadership for the worst defense in 2012.

Not defending any of the aforementioned guys, but I would put a bulk of the blame on Spaggs.

Budsdrinker · 02-14-2014, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Will Smith career has been a roller coaster, and I have to ask just how many defensive leaders have we had? Every time someone leaves or is in danger of leaving he is labeled a leader.

Will Smith
Johnathan Vilma
Scott Fujita
Curtis Lofton
Scott Shanle
....
..
..

They were all on the same team at the same time. We had a crap load of leadership for the worst defense in 2012.

Nope, not true. Fujita was gone in 2010 and Vilma and Lofton didn't play much together because of Vilma's suspension and injuries. Lofton was Vilma's replacement. Will Smith was asked to do many things in his tenure, put on weight to be a run stuffer, drop weight to be a pass rusher and he did all of that. I think Smith had a nice career with the Saints.

TheOak · 02-14-2014, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Nope, not true. Fujita was gone in 2010 and Vilma and Lofton didn't play much together because of Vilma's suspension and injuries. Lofton was Vilma's replacement. Will Smith was asked to do many things in his tenure, put on weight to be a run stuffer, drop weight to be a pass rusher and he did all of that. I think Smith had a nice career with the Saints.

Correct, Lofton was the only oddball out.

He was asked to do many things, and he did them. But not successfully.

Will Smith spent the season on IR, never made a home game to support his team on the sidelines. I know because I have him on my Instagram and I can show you what he was doing on game days. That is no leader, nor is it a 10m a year player.

02-13-2014, 08:50 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by iceshack149 He slowed down these past couple of years but Smith was a solid player and a leader on the defense. Will Smith career has been a roller coaster, and I have to ask just how many defensive leaders have we had? Every time someone leaves or is in danger of leaving he is labeled a leader. Will Smith Johnathan Vilma Scott Fujita Curtis Lofton Scott Shanle .... .. .. They were all on the same team at the same time. We had a crap load of leadership for the worst defense in 2012. Danno, ScottF and CoreyO like this.

02-13-2014, 09:24 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,882 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by TheOak Will Smith career has been a roller coaster, and I have to ask just how many defensive leaders have we had? Every time someone leaves or is in danger of leaving he is labeled a leader. Will Smith Johnathan Vilma Scott Fujita Curtis Lofton Scott Shanle .... .. .. They were all on the same team at the same time. We had a crap load of leadership for the worst defense in 2012. Not defending any of the aforementioned guys, but I would put a bulk of the blame on Spaggs.

02-14-2014, 09:49 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by TheOak Will Smith career has been a roller coaster, and I have to ask just how many defensive leaders have we had? Every time someone leaves or is in danger of leaving he is labeled a leader. Will Smith Johnathan Vilma Scott Fujita Curtis Lofton Scott Shanle .... .. .. They were all on the same team at the same time. We had a crap load of leadership for the worst defense in 2012. Nope, not true. Fujita was gone in 2010 and Vilma and Lofton didn't play much together because of Vilma's suspension and injuries. Lofton was Vilma's replacement. Will Smith was asked to do many things in his tenure, put on weight to be a run stuffer, drop weight to be a pass rusher and he did all of that. I think Smith had a nice career with the Saints. Crusader likes this.

02-14-2014, 10:16 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Nope, not true. Fujita was gone in 2010 and Vilma and Lofton didn't play much together because of Vilma's suspension and injuries. Lofton was Vilma's replacement. Will Smith was asked to do many things in his tenure, put on weight to be a run stuffer, drop weight to be a pass rusher and he did all of that. I think Smith had a nice career with the Saints. Correct, Lofton was the only oddball out. He was asked to do many things, and he did them. But not successfully. Will Smith spent the season on IR, never made a home game to support his team on the sidelines. I know because I have him on my Instagram and I can show you what he was doing on game days. That is no leader, nor is it a 10m a year player.

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